Sarcasm or not, it doesn't matter. When you trash the people who are trying to help, you make it less likely that people will offer help in the future. That eliminates the value of the group. Period.
What belongs here is "Thanks for stepping up Kin". "You might have been the only option for prez, but you'd have been my first choice anyway, Kin". "This is a great change for CLUG, and I look forward to an exciting new year". "You have my complete support Kin. If you need my help, please ask". Call it sarcasm, call it joking, call it whatever you want, negative comments will drive people away from this group in general, and the executive in particular. You need to stop. For those sending me personal messages, note that this goes for you too. Jesse, like Kin, has been here for a long time, and has also contributed to this group. He deserves to be treated exactly the same as Kin. I have zero interest in a 14 year old girl "I'm mad at her, so if you're my friend, you won't talk to her either" type argument. I'm not 14, I'm not a girl. I can appreciate Jesse (and give him a tshirt) based on his value to this group, and also let him know that he's out of line for some particular action. That doesn't mean that I don't value his input on this list, it means that he needs to be reprimanded. I've been reprimanded (publicly on this list) when I deserved it (My very first post, if I remember correctly), and I don't think it was done to be malicious. It was done because it was in the best interest of this group. Peer presure to "behave" is quite powerful, and can be used for good. We all know that knocking the President is bad. Rather than pr ivately starting an "I hate Jesse" (Or Kevin) group, lets just publicly straighten out the problem. If I asked aboutusing Fdisk, you'd answer publically and the issue would get resolved. Interpersonal issues in a public forum such as CLUG should be handled in the same way, quickly, factually, and publically. Kev. -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Kline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 1:55 AM To: CLUG General Subject: Re: [clug-talk] President's Address 2007 Kevin, Chill out. This is <sarcasm>. There is no fighting going on. Some of you people take me way too seriously. Jesse On Thu, 2007-08-03 at 21:33 -0700, Kevin Anderson wrote: > Jesse, > > You were a cheeseball at the meeting asking for a shirt but I cut you slack > and gave you one anyway because you've been a long time contributor to the > group. > > Kin has been a positive contributor to this group for as far back as I > remember. Doing things different from your preference is not the same as > doing them incorrectly. The BLOG is public. It's easy to find via google, > and it reaches people who are not subscribed to this list, or others (such as > myself) who only read the emails occasionally. > > Whining about someone who is doing work for the group with zero expectation > of something in return is stupid and wrong. This infighting is why the first > CLUG meeting I went to was crowded and packed (remember we moved because we > needed a bigger space). Whereas yesterday, the place was half empty. Lets > take this as an opportunity to support the people offering their time to the > betterment of this group. Who wants to go somewhere that they're surrounded > by constant squabbling. Really, I read one email in this whole thread, and > it's a scrap. On DAY 1 with a new prez. > > If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. LIVE THAT. > > Kev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Kline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:58 PM > To: CLUG General > Subject: Re: [clug-talk] President's Address 2007 > > On Thu, 2007-08-03 at 13:49 -0700, kwong wrote: > > I have created my message in a blog rather than flood the mail list > > with my drivel for those that might be interested but don't frequent the > > website. > > So let me get this straight, instead of sending an e-mail to the list, you > wrote a blog entry, then sent an e-mail to the list. On top of that you > didn't provide a url. So now instead of an e-mail with all the information, I > have an e-mail with reference to the information which I now have to look for. > > Jesse > > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
