On Feb 12, 2013, at 12:02 AM, "Musayev, Ilya" <imusa...@webmd.net> wrote:
> Sebastien, > > Agreed with all your comments, joining the cloudstack-marketing list now. > > BTW, I could mention that we are cloudstack user - and I did updated the page > of "Who is using CloudStack", I just cant put the company logo - due to legal > reasons. > > In my world, anything that has to go through legal is like throwing a request > into a deep hole - and pray that at somepoint the request comes back and when > it does. > Could you write something has an individual ? > Regards > ilya > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:run...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:13 PM > To: Musayev, Ilya > Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-us...@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: ACS - Better Marketing - YOUR HELP IS NEEDED > > > On Feb 7, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Musayev, Ilya" <imusa...@webmd.net> wrote: > >> To be completely honest, CloudStack is an awesome product, with one major >> flow - it's a "best kept secret" not too many know about. The last thing we >> want to see is for CS to become like BSD (awesome and stable) but barely >> used. >> >> I'm not Citrix employee, I will speak freely - so pardon my honesty. >> >> We lose the market to a peer pressure phenomenon known as OpenStack, I'm not >> saying OS is bad by any means, but realistically, many companies go for OS - >> because thats what everyone talks about, they don't use the approach of what >> is right for my environment, instead they go for the buzzword. Not many can >> actually get OS to work - in true open source way - and end up paying for >> various companies to make it work for them and maintain as well. We need to >> get the word out there for CS - we can do better. >> >> For the most part, (my strong opinion based on where I worked in past) I can >> say that in most use cases for small, mid and large size companies, CS is a >> better fit. >> >> Bad marketing, works against everyone's interest. Anything from future job >> opportunity - to actually working with a product that is simply great, >> stable and feature rich. >> >> Here is how I propose we fix this: >> >> For each of the bullet points below - we assign leads that work with >> contributors. >> >> >> 1) Create an ACS social media marketing team - We NEED social media >> attention >> >> a. Gather list of ideas >> >> b. Meet regularly on IRC to follow up on progress and discuss what can >> be done better >> >> c. Pick the best voted ideas >> >> d. Assign the duties and roles >> >> e. Conquer - one at a time >> >> f. Create Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter and YouTube Channels or use >> existing means and other social media >> > > This is great, I just want to point out that we have talked about a few of > these items already: > > They already exist (from prior Apache move) and we talked about it: > http://markmail.org/thread/p3awdls6khvvtyzk > > All videos from CCC have been posted at: > http://www.youtube.com/diycloudcomputing > > >> g. Blog with SEO in mind >> >> >> >> 2) Show the world how you can get ACS to work in your environment on >> youtube and other video sites >> >> a. Create a set of step by step tutorial (video preferred) >> >> i. Basic >> ACS POC setup >> >> ii. Setting >> up ACS in corporate environment with strict compliance >> >> iii. Hosting >> environment >> >> iv. >> Development Environment - educate new developers on how to troubleshoot >> issues and how to address them - actual basic examples would be really good >> on how bug X was fixed >> >> > > I have asked for screencast/demo at: > http://markmail.org/thread/j4dv4wt2xkhqv73v > >> >> b. Take it a step further and show how you can bolt on CS with other >> offerings - again video preferred but text will do >> >> i. Show >> how to bolt on OpenSwift for block storage, OpenShift (linux PaaS) and >> IronFoundry (windows PaaS), Chef and SpaceWalk and others >> >> >> >> 3) Create support groups based on area of expertise, for example I can >> help with VmWare and CS setups, but I'm not good with XEN or KVM at the >> moment >> >> a. We need support groups for different hypervisors, storage and >> networks that can help newcomers >> >> b. Each issue resolved must be documented preferable on wiki - any >> documentation (including copy and paste from mailing list) is better than >> none >> >> >> >> >> 4) Host local user group meet ups > > Personnally, I attend and speak at JUG in France/Geneva region. I was just at > the Grenoble JUG last week and I am heading to Edinburgh JUG in March 27. > >> >> a. Show CS and help others >> >> > > This is what we try to do with buildacloud.org (former cloudstack.org): > http://buildacloud.org/blog/202-bacd-ghent-summary-and-slides.html > > My question to all the CloudStack users reading this is how can we get all of > you to speak out about your deployments. > Write a blog describing your use case, how you use CloudStack and why you > love it ? > > Not to pick on you Ilya, but If I google for "cloudstack webmd" it only > returns links to the mailing list. So what prevents you from writing about > how you use CloudStack ? What can we do as a community to get you to write > about CloudStack ? > > > >> >> 5) Reach out to other open source (and not) players and work with them >> to have easy integration and cross functionality >> >> a. RedHat with OpenShift PaaS > > As an example, see my podcast with redhat during FOSDEM where I reach out to > delta cloud: > http://cloudevangelist.org > > >> >> b. IronFondry >> >> c. Cisco, Microsoft, VMWare, etc... >> >> d. Become part of major distributions > > There was also a thread on this: > http://markmail.org/thread/3nm2g7elvoxek7ga > >> >> e. Others will join as soon as they see the momentum >> >> > > Momentum is building, at least in France it's picking up nicely: > http://ies.ikoula.com/cloud-prive > > >> >> * Next Steps to make this happen: >> >> o Gather list of people willing to contribute their time with skills and >> desired areas of involvement, even if you are a new comer or don't have >> enough experience with CS, we can use your help! >> >> o Set the time for regular IRC meeting >> >> o Help lead this effort as well as participate >> >> >> Together we can make ACS better for everyone and we can beat the buzzword >> players - because we are truly better. >> >> Your input is welcome, if you want to reach out to me off the list, please >> feel free, I'm on irc.freenode.net nick "serverchief", or email me directly. >> >> Thanks >> ilya > > The bottom line to me is very simple: > We need everyone on this list to write a blog about how they use cloudstack > or develop on cloudstack: > http://sebgoa.blogspot.com > > Then we need to tweet the hell out of it :) > > Easy :) > > > >
