Sebastien, Agreed with all your comments, joining the cloudstack-marketing list now.
BTW, I could mention that we are cloudstack user - and I did updated the page of "Who is using CloudStack", I just cant put the company logo - due to legal reasons. In my world, anything that has to go through legal is like throwing a request into a deep hole - and pray that at somepoint the request comes back and when it does. Regards ilya -----Original Message----- From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:run...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:13 PM To: Musayev, Ilya Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-us...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: ACS - Better Marketing - YOUR HELP IS NEEDED On Feb 7, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Musayev, Ilya" <imusa...@webmd.net> wrote: > To be completely honest, CloudStack is an awesome product, with one major > flow - it's a "best kept secret" not too many know about. The last thing we > want to see is for CS to become like BSD (awesome and stable) but barely used. > > I'm not Citrix employee, I will speak freely - so pardon my honesty. > > We lose the market to a peer pressure phenomenon known as OpenStack, I'm not > saying OS is bad by any means, but realistically, many companies go for OS - > because thats what everyone talks about, they don't use the approach of what > is right for my environment, instead they go for the buzzword. Not many can > actually get OS to work - in true open source way - and end up paying for > various companies to make it work for them and maintain as well. We need to > get the word out there for CS - we can do better. > > For the most part, (my strong opinion based on where I worked in past) I can > say that in most use cases for small, mid and large size companies, CS is a > better fit. > > Bad marketing, works against everyone's interest. Anything from future job > opportunity - to actually working with a product that is simply great, stable > and feature rich. > > Here is how I propose we fix this: > > For each of the bullet points below - we assign leads that work with > contributors. > > > 1) Create an ACS social media marketing team - We NEED social media > attention > > a. Gather list of ideas > > b. Meet regularly on IRC to follow up on progress and discuss what can > be done better > > c. Pick the best voted ideas > > d. Assign the duties and roles > > e. Conquer - one at a time > > f. Create Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter and YouTube Channels or use > existing means and other social media > This is great, I just want to point out that we have talked about a few of these items already: They already exist (from prior Apache move) and we talked about it: http://markmail.org/thread/p3awdls6khvvtyzk All videos from CCC have been posted at: http://www.youtube.com/diycloudcomputing > g. Blog with SEO in mind > > > > 2) Show the world how you can get ACS to work in your environment on > youtube and other video sites > > a. Create a set of step by step tutorial (video preferred) > > i. Basic > ACS POC setup > > ii. Setting > up ACS in corporate environment with strict compliance > > iii. Hosting > environment > > iv. > Development Environment - educate new developers on how to troubleshoot > issues and how to address them - actual basic examples would be really good > on how bug X was fixed > > I have asked for screencast/demo at: http://markmail.org/thread/j4dv4wt2xkhqv73v > > b. Take it a step further and show how you can bolt on CS with other > offerings - again video preferred but text will do > > i. Show > how to bolt on OpenSwift for block storage, OpenShift (linux PaaS) and > IronFoundry (windows PaaS), Chef and SpaceWalk and others > > > > 3) Create support groups based on area of expertise, for example I can > help with VmWare and CS setups, but I'm not good with XEN or KVM at the moment > > a. We need support groups for different hypervisors, storage and > networks that can help newcomers > > b. Each issue resolved must be documented preferable on wiki - any > documentation (including copy and paste from mailing list) is better than none > > > > > 4) Host local user group meet ups Personnally, I attend and speak at JUG in France/Geneva region. I was just at the Grenoble JUG last week and I am heading to Edinburgh JUG in March 27. > > a. Show CS and help others > > This is what we try to do with buildacloud.org (former cloudstack.org): http://buildacloud.org/blog/202-bacd-ghent-summary-and-slides.html My question to all the CloudStack users reading this is how can we get all of you to speak out about your deployments. Write a blog describing your use case, how you use CloudStack and why you love it ? Not to pick on you Ilya, but If I google for "cloudstack webmd" it only returns links to the mailing list. So what prevents you from writing about how you use CloudStack ? What can we do as a community to get you to write about CloudStack ? > > 5) Reach out to other open source (and not) players and work with them > to have easy integration and cross functionality > > a. RedHat with OpenShift PaaS As an example, see my podcast with redhat during FOSDEM where I reach out to delta cloud: http://cloudevangelist.org > > b. IronFondry > > c. Cisco, Microsoft, VMWare, etc... > > d. Become part of major distributions There was also a thread on this: http://markmail.org/thread/3nm2g7elvoxek7ga > > e. Others will join as soon as they see the momentum > > Momentum is building, at least in France it's picking up nicely: http://ies.ikoula.com/cloud-prive > > * Next Steps to make this happen: > > o Gather list of people willing to contribute their time with skills and > desired areas of involvement, even if you are a new comer or don't have > enough experience with CS, we can use your help! > > o Set the time for regular IRC meeting > > o Help lead this effort as well as participate > > > Together we can make ACS better for everyone and we can beat the buzzword > players - because we are truly better. > > Your input is welcome, if you want to reach out to me off the list, please > feel free, I'm on irc.freenode.net nick "serverchief", or email me directly. > > Thanks > ilya The bottom line to me is very simple: We need everyone on this list to write a blog about how they use cloudstack or develop on cloudstack: http://sebgoa.blogspot.com Then we need to tweet the hell out of it :) Easy :)
