(Though, archiving them on the wiki AND sending a copy to the list, with
links to the archives, would be totally fine.)

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org> wrote:

> I don't think the logs should be posted to the mailing list. They are fine
> on the wiki. I think the minutes should be posted to the mailing list. Our
> number one goal (literally, number one - above the code, above the
> meetings, everything) must be to invite people in, and
> to encourage participation. Putting the *minutes* on the wiki is a closing
> of the topics. Putting them on the list is an opening of the topics.
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:02 PM, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>
>> > Cool, thanks. Raw IRC logs, if you generate them, are fine on the wiki.
>> But
>> > the purpose of circulating minutes on the mailing list is to "keep the
>> door
>> > open" so to speak, on what was discussed. We need to be inclusionary,
>> not
>> > exclusionary.
>>
>> Hi Noah,
>>
>> For what it's worth, I don't feel excluded if the IRC logs are on the
>> wiki. The meeting is advertized on the list with the proper caveat that no
>> decisions are made in that meeting, and the link is posted on the list.
>> The onus is on me to attend the meeting if I want to discuss a particular
>> issue. If I miss the meeting I know where to find the minutes and bring
>> back an issue to the list for official discussion. Checking the wiki is
>> easier than digging through markmail.
>>
>> Sending the logs to the list would seem to officialize and non-official
>> discussion where no decisions was made. It sounds strange.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Sebastien
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Sudha Ponnaganti <
>> > sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for the suggestion. Will start posting them on the mailing list.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Noah Slater [mailto:nsla...@tumbolia.org]
>> >> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:23 AM
>> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [ASFCS40] QA Scrum Meeting Minutes - 09/13/2012
>> >>
>> >> I think these should be posted to the mailing list for wider
>> distribution
>> >> and to encourage participation. "Archiving" things on the wiki might
>> send a
>> >> message that these items are "complete" and that further comment is not
>> >> welcome.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Sudha Ponnaganti <
>> >> sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Meeting minutes will be archived here:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/ASF+CS+4.0+QA+S
>> >>> crum+Meeting+Minutes
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Sudha Ponnaganti [mailto:sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com]
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:53 PM
>> >>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >>> Subject: [ASFCS40] QA Scrum Meeting Minutes - 09/13/2012
>> >>>
>> >>> Operational Test Plan -
>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/asf-cs-40-qa.html
>> >>> Test Execution Reports -
>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/asf-cs-40-test-execution.html
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> General:
>> >>> -       non-OSS components deployment need to be streamlined right
>> away -
>> >>> validation is starting and team would use manual procedure for time
>> being
>> >>> -       There are around 31 fixed issues and team can close the
>> blockers
>> >>> which they have already evaluated
>> >>> -       Some team members may be able to finish early so additional
>> >> topics
>> >>> can be taken up
>> >>> -              Engaging couple of members to do some adhoc testing
>> >>> -              This is open to community as well if anyone is
>> interested,
>> >>> will send GTM invite
>> >>>
>> >>> Installation/upgrade:
>> >>> -       Quick install will be added to the test plan - Abhinav
>> >>> -       Blocked issues are fixed - will make progress for fresh
>> install
>> >> on
>> >>> Ubuntu and upgrade
>> >>>
>> >>> Management Server:
>> >>> -       Made good progress with dashboard and projects (70% +).
>> Picking
>> >> up
>> >>> generic UI, accounts and domains next
>> >>> -       Clustered mgmt. server testing will be taken up by Angie next
>> >> week
>> >>> -       Storage migration validation in progress today ( storage
>> testing
>> >>> will be taken up next week)
>> >>>
>> >>> Networking:
>> >>> -       Static NAT and Source NAT validation in progress
>> >>> -       Similarly DomR, Guest Network, Shared Network validation has
>> >>> started and picking up
>> >>> -       Testing in general is a little behind schedule - test case
>> >>> targeting is finished and will pick it up next week
>> >>>
>> >>> Hypervisors and Guest OS:
>> >>> -       Made 70% + progress in validation of Snapshot Mgmt.,
>> >>> templates/ISOs and volumes
>> >>> -       Basic concepts of zones, pods, clusters, hosts are also done
>> >>> around same %age
>> >>>
>> >>> Additional topics listed in TP:
>> >>> -       Looking for community participation in those areas.
>> >>>
>> >>> Will post MoM/ Metrics on ASF Wiki going forward
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Sailaja Mada [mailto:sailaja.m...@citrix.com]
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:29 PM
>> >>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >>> Subject: [ASFCS40] QA Scrum Meeting Minutes
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> Please find QA Scrum meting minutes below :
>> >>>
>> >>> Operational Test Plan -
>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/asf-cs-40-qa.html
>> >>> Test Execution Reports -
>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/asf-cs-40-test-execution.html
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 1.       Installation
>> >>>
>> >>> a.       QA team to use Ubuntu build based on the instructions
>> provided
>> >> by
>> >>> Edison
>> >>>
>> >>> b.      Upgrade -  Need confirmation that all code changes are done
>> for
>> >>> upgrade script. However Abhinav  will try and log a blocking issue to
>> >>> get that process started with development
>> >>>
>> >>> c.       Once official builds are available, will certify the builds
>> >>>
>> >>> 2.       Management Server
>> >>>
>> >>> a.       Execution is in progress. Minor issue related to projects is
>> >>> logged
>> >>>
>> >>> 3.       Networking
>> >>>
>> >>> a.       Execution is in  progress
>> >>>
>> >>> b.      Chandan is targeting test cases - Need to finish by tomorrow
>> and
>> >>> execution is yet to start - installations done
>> >>>
>> >>> c.       Couple of defects logged by sadhu and those are assigned
>> >>>
>> >>> 4.       Hypervisors and Guest OS
>> >>>
>> >>> a.       Execution is in progress - Minor functional issue related to
>> >>> snapshots is logged. No blockers for execution
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks and Regards,
>> >>> Sailaja.M
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> NS
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > NS
>>
>> -Sebastien Goasguen
>> Cloud Computing Evangelist, Citrix EMEA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> NS
>



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NS

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