I don't think the logs should be posted to the mailing list. They are fine on the wiki. I think the minutes should be posted to the mailing list. Our number one goal (literally, number one - above the code, above the meetings, everything) must be to invite people in, and to encourage participation. Putting the *minutes* on the wiki is a closing of the topics. Putting them on the list is an opening of the topics.
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:02 PM, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sep 30, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > > > Cool, thanks. Raw IRC logs, if you generate them, are fine on the wiki. > But > > the purpose of circulating minutes on the mailing list is to "keep the > door > > open" so to speak, on what was discussed. We need to be inclusionary, not > > exclusionary. > > Hi Noah, > > For what it's worth, I don't feel excluded if the IRC logs are on the > wiki. The meeting is advertized on the list with the proper caveat that no > decisions are made in that meeting, and the link is posted on the list. > The onus is on me to attend the meeting if I want to discuss a particular > issue. If I miss the meeting I know where to find the minutes and bring > back an issue to the list for official discussion. Checking the wiki is > easier than digging through markmail. > > Sending the logs to the list would seem to officialize and non-official > discussion where no decisions was made. It sounds strange. > > Cheers, > > -Sebastien > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Sudha Ponnaganti < > > sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com> wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the suggestion. Will start posting them on the mailing list. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Noah Slater [mailto:nsla...@tumbolia.org] > >> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:23 AM > >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: [ASFCS40] QA Scrum Meeting Minutes - 09/13/2012 > >> > >> I think these should be posted to the mailing list for wider > distribution > >> and to encourage participation. "Archiving" things on the wiki might > send a > >> message that these items are "complete" and that further comment is not > >> welcome. > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Sudha Ponnaganti < > >> sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Meeting minutes will be archived here: > >>> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/ASF+CS+4.0+QA+S > >>> crum+Meeting+Minutes > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Sudha Ponnaganti [mailto:sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com] > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:53 PM > >>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > >>> Subject: [ASFCS40] QA Scrum Meeting Minutes - 09/13/2012 > >>> > >>> Operational Test Plan - > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/asf-cs-40-qa.html > >>> Test Execution Reports - > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/asf-cs-40-test-execution.html > >>> > >>> > >>> General: > >>> - non-OSS components deployment need to be streamlined right > away - > >>> validation is starting and team would use manual procedure for time > being > >>> - There are around 31 fixed issues and team can close the > blockers > >>> which they have already evaluated > >>> - Some team members may be able to finish early so additional > >> topics > >>> can be taken up > >>> - Engaging couple of members to do some adhoc testing > >>> - This is open to community as well if anyone is > interested, > >>> will send GTM invite > >>> > >>> Installation/upgrade: > >>> - Quick install will be added to the test plan - Abhinav > >>> - Blocked issues are fixed - will make progress for fresh install > >> on > >>> Ubuntu and upgrade > >>> > >>> Management Server: > >>> - Made good progress with dashboard and projects (70% +). Picking > >> up > >>> generic UI, accounts and domains next > >>> - Clustered mgmt. server testing will be taken up by Angie next > >> week > >>> - Storage migration validation in progress today ( storage > testing > >>> will be taken up next week) > >>> > >>> Networking: > >>> - Static NAT and Source NAT validation in progress > >>> - Similarly DomR, Guest Network, Shared Network validation has > >>> started and picking up > >>> - Testing in general is a little behind schedule - test case > >>> targeting is finished and will pick it up next week > >>> > >>> Hypervisors and Guest OS: > >>> - Made 70% + progress in validation of Snapshot Mgmt., > >>> templates/ISOs and volumes > >>> - Basic concepts of zones, pods, clusters, hosts are also done > >>> around same %age > >>> > >>> Additional topics listed in TP: > >>> - Looking for community participation in those areas. > >>> > >>> Will post MoM/ Metrics on ASF Wiki going forward > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Sailaja Mada [mailto:sailaja.m...@citrix.com] > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:29 PM > >>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > >>> Subject: [ASFCS40] QA Scrum Meeting Minutes > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Please find QA Scrum meting minutes below : > >>> > >>> Operational Test Plan - > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/asf-cs-40-qa.html > >>> Test Execution Reports - > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/asf-cs-40-test-execution.html > >>> > >>> > >>> 1. Installation > >>> > >>> a. QA team to use Ubuntu build based on the instructions provided > >> by > >>> Edison > >>> > >>> b. Upgrade - Need confirmation that all code changes are done for > >>> upgrade script. However Abhinav will try and log a blocking issue to > >>> get that process started with development > >>> > >>> c. Once official builds are available, will certify the builds > >>> > >>> 2. Management Server > >>> > >>> a. Execution is in progress. Minor issue related to projects is > >>> logged > >>> > >>> 3. Networking > >>> > >>> a. Execution is in progress > >>> > >>> b. Chandan is targeting test cases - Need to finish by tomorrow > and > >>> execution is yet to start - installations done > >>> > >>> c. Couple of defects logged by sadhu and those are assigned > >>> > >>> 4. Hypervisors and Guest OS > >>> > >>> a. Execution is in progress - Minor functional issue related to > >>> snapshots is logged. No blockers for execution > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks and Regards, > >>> Sailaja.M > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> NS > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > NS > > -Sebastien Goasguen > Cloud Computing Evangelist, Citrix EMEA > > > > > -- NS