On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org> wrote: > This is cool, nice to see this data on the wiki. Thanks! Is this > list exhaustive?
I believe it is, for the patches folder. David is currently working his way through a file by file review of the rest of the source tree. I'll keep up with the bugs I just created for all of the patches folder files that had unknown provenance, and update the wiki page + do the right licensing thing (add header, or attribute source project) for those that are easily resolved. I think we're going to end up with a handful of outstanding files that may require legal-discuss agreement to include in our source code, but we'll see! > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Chip Childers > <chip.child...@sungard.com>wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:16 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Chip Childers >> > <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:28 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Chip Childers >> >>> <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: >> >>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:55 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: >> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Chip Childers >> >>>>> <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 2:41 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Noah Slater <nsla...@tumbolia.org> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> Saying that configuration files, in all cases, are not >> copywritable because >> >>>>>>>> that are, on the whole, not as complex as code is like saying >> that blog >> >>>>>>>> posts, in all cases, are not copywritable because they are, on >> the whole, >> >>>>>>>> not as complex as books. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> The law is much more nuanced than that. There is no way we can >> say, up >> >>>>>>>> front, whether a configuration file is protected by copywrite or >> not. The >> >>>>>>>> unwillingness to commit to anything on legal-discuss is an >> indication of >> >>>>>>>> this. (It was made explicit that with a vague question, there >> will only be >> >>>>>>>> vague answers.) >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> It might be better to actually document what we have, and then >> present that >> >>>>>>>> to legal discuss and take it from there. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Let's get concrete. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> We should put together a list of each config file path, along with >> >>>>>>>> information such as: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> * Size of file >> >>>>>>>> * Complexity (key/value, code snippets, what?) >> >>>>>>>> * Copyright notice or license header? >> >>>>>>>> * License of project it (may) have been taken from >> >>>>>>>> * Origin (Citrix, upstream project, unknown?) >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Once we have a complete picture, I think we can talk about how to >> proceed. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> (And hopefully propose a guideline for future config files.) >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I certainly do not think we are in a position to write of an >> entire >> >>>>>>>> category of data as being uncopywritable. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I am happy to run this to pursue this with legal too, but I think >> we need a >> >>>>>>>> better view of what we're dealing with. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Thoughts? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Alright, I'll start working on compiling this. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> --David >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> David, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Do you want to divide and conquer on this task? I'd be happy to >> help. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -chip >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Happy to have the help >> >>>>> --David >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> David, >> >>>> >> >>>> I've gotten as far as I can with the list (via the google spreadsheet >> >>>> you shared). I think the next step is to send it out for broader >> >>>> review. We are going to need the help of the folks that might have >> >>>> originally added the config file / script to the project. >> >>>> >> >>>> -chip >> >>> >> >>> Sorry I haven't been of much help of late. >> >>> Shall we move it to the wiki? >> >>> >> >>> --David >> >>> >> >> >> >> That makes sense. If you get to it before me, fantastic... but >> >> otherwise I'll move it over tomorrow. >> >> >> >> -chip >> > >> > >> > >> > It's here: >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/config-file-listing.html >> > >> > --David >> > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I've been out sick the last several days, so I didn't get to this >> sooner. I'll start up threads over the next couple of hours on each >> of the areas where we need advice / help from others on the list. >> >> -chip >> > > > > -- > NS
