That is a much better point than I was able to come up with. Thanks Daniel!
:D

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:

>
> On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Alex Huang <alex.hu...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> >> The main "Red Flag" to me was the line:
> >>
> >> AGREED: continue using waf to build rpm package  (jlkinsel, 17:24:57)
> >>
> >> As soon as I saw "AGREED", a little red flag popped up in my head
> wondering
> >> if a decision had been made on IRC that should have been done on the
> list.   I
> >> believe this had been discussed to death on the list already (need to
> double
> >> check, very busy list) and a quick link to show that would definitely
> been
> >> helpful.
> >
> > That's a really good point.  Here the agreement was that waf is the
> temporary solution to continue to use to get 4.0 release out.  It's not an
> agreement on long term direction of CloudStack.  Does it still count as a
> decision?  I mean there's tons of these types of "decisions" made during
> the IRC?  For example, who's going to help with what work.  Todo lists
> being generated.  Etc.  Do these all count as decisions?
>
>
> As Noah stated, it's kind of a gray area and is something you'll likely
> need to adjust as you move forward, learn what works and doesn't, etc…   A
> lot of it can depend exactly on how it's presented in the minutes/log.   If
> it was presented more like:
>
> No one present has time to look at other options for RPM packaging right
> now so planning on sticking with waf for now.
>
> then it wouldn't have raised any red flags to me at all.  That shows that
> its more of a "remain status quo" for now, but also allows others that were
> not on the irc chat to say "hey, I have some time, can I help out with
> that" or something.   Keeps the door open.    The "AGREED" wording just
> seems to imply "we're doing this, discussion closed" type thing which
> really isn't the case.
>
>
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