Well, all our packages are going to be public, of course.  That shouldn't be a 
problem!

Ewan.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 17 August 2012 14:19
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Please choose: The build system to use for 4.0
> 
> I'm totally fine with a switch, my only concern was around when it's done.
> Aside from just implementing the build bits in the git repo (sounds like there
> are resources for this), I picture there being a bit of work on every
> developer's part to switch their dev environments. This might be as simple as
> a few package installs, but on at least one occasion when I was building
> something via Maven I had to spend the better part of an afternoon going
> back and forth with the network/systems guys because Maven needed to
> download some components and the applicable systems by default are
> internal-access only. It's things like that where I worry about switching 
> build
> systems when people are under a crunch to complete 4.0.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Ewan Mellor <ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com>
> wrote:
> > OK, so we've got offers of effort on Maven from Darren, Hugo, plus review
> help from Olivier and Alex.  Maven gets +1 from me, Alex, and Brett too.
> >
> > On the Ant side we've got +1 from Chip ("based on timeline"), Wido,
> Marcus, and Mice.  David has his deps-ctrl branch, but no-one has offered to
> finish the job.
> >
> > We have consensus that the release is going to slip by at least 3 weeks (2 
> > at
> the front and one at the end), which gives us four weeks total to get the
> build system done and debugged (i.e. between now and final release
> candidate on Sep 14).
> >
> > With that extra time, does that change anyone's opinion?  It would be nice
> to get consensus on this issue, otherwise we're going to have to put it to a
> vote.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ewan.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: akaras...@gmail.com [mailto:akaras...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Alex Karasulu
> >> Sent: 17 August 2012 03:11
> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Please choose: The build system to use for 4.0
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > +1 for Apache Maven
> >>
> >>
> >> Ditto but this can happen any time and in parallel. I understand and
> >> appreciate the time limitations for the 4.0 release.
> >>
> >>
> >> > (but I agree my POV can be considered non objective :-)
> >> > ) or at least our own Apache dogfood.
> >> > I agree this can late for 4.0 (why not for 4.1) Btw if someone push
> >> > poc on a branch I can help to review as I have a bit of experience
> >> > on (and Brett too :-) ).
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm not a Maven demigod like Brett, but I can help out here as well.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Olivier
> >> > Le 16 août 2012 23:12, "David Nalley" <da...@gnsa.us> a écrit :
> >> >
> >> > > Hi folks,
> >> > >
> >> > > I am particularly limiting the scope of this to what we do for
> >> > > 4.0, since that is the pressing timeline.
> >> > >
> >> > > Here are the current options:
> >> > >
> >> > > * Continue using ant, and have the hacky stuff I wrote as ant
> >> > > targets deal with dependency resolution. (see the differences in
> >> > > the deps-ctrl
> >> > > branch)
> >> > >
> >> > > * Use Gradle (see the gradle branch)
> >> > >
> >> > > * Use Maven (I haven't seen any of this, but Darren reports that
> >> > > he has this building - Darren: can we see this somewhere publicly
> >> > > perhaps?)
> >> > >
> >> > > While I'd like to have us choose the system that we are going to
> >> > > use for all time (and despite some reservations, I think Maven is
> >> > > likely my personal choice for what we should move to long term),
> >> > > I am also concerned that we don't let the perfect become the enemy
> of the good.
> >> > > So given all of that - what should our choice be?
> >> > >
> >> > > --David
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best Regards,
> >> -- Alex

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