On May 15, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Alex Huang wrote:
>> Contributors - people who contribute in one way or another to the project
>> Committers - people who have commit access to the project's repo(s)
>> Maintainers - volunteers from the pool of committers who have stepped
>> forward to shepherd a single module. This is not a position of authority - 
>> but
>> rather one of responsibility - to ensure coding standards are met, that
>> accepted patches don't break things, etc.
> So going into that, this is one area where I have difference opinion on 
> maintainer's responsibility.  
> 
> In the write-up, it says "Review, and potentially acceptance, of code changes 
> from the community. The maintainer is responsible for testing that new 
> contributions work and do not break the application, and that the code 
> changes are of high quality."
> 
> I think the maintainer should be responsible for making sure the process from 
> feature design, code design, code review, to unit testing and integration 
> testing have been followed but I find that "testing that new contributions 
> work" to be challenging for a maintainer.  I think the committers need to 
> prove as part of their patch that it doesn't break things.  Maintainers can 
> go back and say "Well, you haven't proved this or that" and can give 
> suggestions on how to prove it.
> 
> What do others think?

I think there's a balance to be made. The last thing I want is patches "thrown 
over the wall" - that will result in burning out maintainers pretty quickly and 
other things being thrown back at the contributors. At the same time, I expect 
a maintainer to (at least sometime) have better understanding of the module and 
CloudStack in general than a contributor does - thus I think the maintainer has 
a little more responsibility. Any thoughts on how other projects do this?

Obviously thorough testing of a code change on something like CloudStack isn't 
a drop in the bucket (especially without a test suite) and I don't want to 
suggest that should be done for every patch, or we'll have no volunteers for 
maintainer roles...

Throwing out an idea - could we mitigate this somewhat by suggesting a 
test-driven development model, or will that really scare folks away?

John

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