The output of `spec/form` is helps a bit with this, as it namespaces vars,
keywords and symbols correctly. I've had it on my list to write a
translator for specs sometime in the near future, but I haven't done it
yet. True the output of `form` isn't as uniform as I would like (sexprs
instead of maps) but I don't think it would be too much work.

Timothy

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Leif <leif.poor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Alex, thanks for the responsiveness.
>
> The paths refer to tags in the schemas, not keys in the map. However, this
>> has been asked about several times today and Rich has added support for a
>> :in clause that will track the key paths to master and that will be in
>> alpha2.
>>
>
>  Where is this discussion thread?  I wouldn't want to ask duplicate
> questions.
>
>
>> Is there a recommended way to introspect specs for our own purposes
>> (coercion, code generation)?  An interpreter on the output of 'describe'
>> might work (although it's a little complicated for fn specs), but I wanted
>> to know if you all had any thoughts or plans for the future here.
>>
>
>
>> Could you give more details on what question you would like to ask?
>>
>
> Better people to ask would be those that have a lot of experience writing
> translators for specs, like the Schema devs.  But I'll give my muddled
> thoughts here:
>
> Right now, the internals of different instances of Spec are private.  So,
> to write a translator from a Spec to the approximate json or avro schema it
> specifies, or translate from a Spec to a function that coerces a String to
> a data structure that conforms, I would have to:
>
> 1. Parse the output of 'describe' back into a description of the Spec's
> internals (if I can get at all of them)
> 2. Interpret / translate the parsed tree
>
> In fact, the current Spec protocol, in my mind, is actually 4 protocols,
> one for 4 different translators you all have written:
>
> (defprotocol Spec
>   ;; Spec->Conformer
>   (conform* [spec x])
>   :: Spec->Explainer
>   (explain* [spec path via x])
>   ;; Spec->Gen
>   (gen* [spec overrides path rmap])
>   (with-gen* [spec gfn])
>   ;; Spec->Describer
>   (describe* [spec]))
>
> But this implementation hiding dooms clojure/core to write *all* the
> translators.  This just seems weird given how most other Clojure features
> are open and user-extensible.
>
> --Leif
>
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