Yes +1 to qsys, such a library would be quite useful and enable using 
Clojure in additional enterprise settings. 

Regards,

Timur

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 9:50:45 PM UTC+1, qsys wrote:
>
> True, hazelcast, or JGroups, in vertx 3 for clustering/autodiscovery. It 
> may be 'easy' to implement, but it has been quite nicely wrapped, together 
> with netty messaging (not only pub-sub) in vert.x, having connectors to 
> 'pure TCP', websockets etc. I have been thinking of doing something similar 
> in clojure, but never got to it...
> Anyway, I'd love to see some kind of 'runtime modularity', on one machine 
> or even one JVM would do as a start (no autodiscovery/clustering 
> necessary).  That's the thing that makes vertx, to me, useful. I'm pretty 
> sure it's possible with the existing clojure libraries etc, but I don't see 
> it yet. That's another thread, though.
>
> thx, qsys
>
>
> Op zaterdag 23 januari 2016 17:21:03 UTC+1 schreef Andrey Antukh:
>>
>> The eventbus of vert.x as far as I know is implemented on top of 
>> hazelcast[1] that you already can use from clojure. 
>>
>> Make a eventbus like concept on top of hazelcast is pretty easy and it 
>> already gives you the autodiscovery and all the "clustering" stuff for free.
>>
>> [1]; http://hazelcast.org/use-cases/messaging/
>>
>> Andrey
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 1:50 PM, qsys <kurt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on what you want... what I really like is the easy modularity: 
>>> deploy new 'verticles' somewhere in your network, and they're just all 
>>> connected through a the eventbus. I make a 'new' module, I put it somewhere 
>>> and it's automatically picked up by the appication and I can communicate 
>>> with it using that event bus. Is there something similar in clojure, or can 
>>> I achieve something similar in clojure? I checked 
>>> - catacumba: web toolkit, not what I'm after
>>> - sente: is about the web
>>> - aleph: comes closer: does have tcp-servers, but no autodiscovery, and 
>>> well, no 'event bus' (a kind of wrapper around netty etc).
>>> - manifold: I don't really see the added value, having core.async - but 
>>> I may fail to see something important here
>>> - pomegranate: is possibly very interesting in adding new modules... not 
>>> for removing 'old versions' of a module.
>>> - pedestal: have to have a deeper look into it, but so far, I have a 
>>> feeling it's more about web than 'intra-program' communication
>>>
>>> So, so far, I don't see how to implement something like the vert.x event 
>>> bus, with autodiscovery, in clojure (although I would love to see something 
>>> like it), expanding to the browser. I don't mind (and prefer) composing it 
>>> using different libraries, but I feel to see how to have this functionality 
>>> in clojure (now, I wrap the vertx eventbus in my clojure programs), and 
>>> since I already load vertx for the eventbus, I use it as web server as 
>>> well, if I need one... So well, if someone has an idea, it might be a nice 
>>> project I'd love to work on :).
>>>
>>> thx, qsys
>>>
>>> Op zondag 3 januari 2016 22:25:04 UTC+1 schreef tbc++:
>>>>
>>>> I've done some evaluations of Vert.x in the past and was rather 
>>>> underwhelmed. What is it that you are trying to accomplish? Stuff like 
>>>> Pedestal offers async web services, but without the complexity of an 
>>>> traditional evented server. So perhaps if we had a better idea of your 
>>>> requirements we could be a bit more helpful.
>>>>
>>>> So I'd say, look into Pedestal and then define what you need that it 
>>>> cannot do. Same for other toolkits like ring and httpkit. 
>>>>
>>>> Timothy
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:59 PM, adrians <nma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It used to be that Vert.x 2.x had integration for Clojure, but version 
>>>>> 3.x hasn't added it yet. Has anyone used this version through the Java 
>>>>> API 
>>>>> and if so, how painful was it? Is Reactor <http://projectreactor.io/>any 
>>>>> better in that respect? What are people using when they want this kind of 
>>>>> back end?
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