On top of all of that, Pedestal is a non-starter for me due to the specific 
definition of Windows being a non-supported platform.

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 10:48:58 AM UTC-6, Sean Corfield wrote:
>
> On May 6, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Sean Corfield <se...@corfield.org 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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> And that’s why I thought that Pedestal looked very complex and hard to 
> use. Even the Hello World example is couched in terms that make it look 
> overly complex.
>
>
> I Googled to see if there was a better page explaining Pedestal and didn’t 
> find anything obvious. I did find this tho’:
>
> http://www.lispcast.com/what-web-framework-should-i-use
>
> "Pedestal… Though, I would caution you that it's not for a Clojure 
> beginner. *Pedestal introduces a lot of new concepts that even 
> experienced Clojure programmers have to learn.*The tutorial is long and 
> arduous. You will have problems learning Pedestal without knowing Clojure." 
> (Eric’s emphasis)
>
> Admittedly that is talking about the entire Pedestal stack, not just the 
> back end portion that it has become now. Until recently, I didn’t know that 
> Pedestal had split in two and had previously discounted it as "that complex 
> full-stack thing" (much like ClojureScript One etc). Eric’s article has 
> this note:
>
> "Update: Pedestal has changed dramatically since I last looked at it. It 
> is no longer a frontend framework. *It is now a high-performance backend 
> server for high performance asynchronous processing.* It's worth looking 
> at if you need that. Otherwise, I stick with my recommendation to use basic 
> Ring." (my emphasis)
>
> Anyone looking for an easy web framework to get up and running with is 
> likely to think the same thing.
>
> Sean Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
> An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
>
> "Perfection is the enemy of the good."
> -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880)
>
>
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