To me, the idea of a framework is embodied by a set processing tools, whose primary design goal is to work best in concert with each other. I rather enjoy working with libraries, whose primary design goal is to work well in any technology stack. I don't think those are mutually exclusive, but working with libraries often sacrifices the ability to put a brand on your technology stack, at first, because building out of libraries means mixing and matching.
I think the right way towards a more coherent whole is to identify libraries with overlapping concerns and for their maintainers to converge on a common data format. Then "framework" brands can be created as specific compositions of those general purpose libraries. Ring, for example, pull this off with great success: I'm pretty sure that any clojure web framework is going to support it as an http representation. Of course, one might say that making it easy to create a framework hurts the goal of getting the community unified behind a single brand. Then again to me, being able to quickly create a highly specific surface to very general and composable innards, is a big part to the purpose of homoiconicity. That said, I do feel positive towards providing orientation on how to get stuff done, but I would urge anybody attempting to provide it, to first view any of their puzzle pieces in isolation and ask: "How would somebody use this, who took no part in the rest of my framework" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
