Yes and yes. In Dunaj this is called the unpacked reduction, and there is 
IUnpackedRed protocol that is used by coll implementations to provide 
reduce-kv like functionality. Please see this example on how Dunaj handles 
reductions with >2 arguments. No intermediate tuples are created when using 
unpacked reduction...

https://www.refheap.com/98510

Jozef

On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 1:05:16 AM UTC+1, Herwig Hochleitner wrote:
>
> 2015-03-12 12:15 GMT+01:00 Jozef Wagner <jozef....@gmail.com <javascript:>
> >:
>
>>
>> Experiment #5: Reducers First
>>
>>
> Wow! There are some great ideas on how to unify reducers with lazy-seq.
>
> Have there yet been thoughts on how reduce-kv could fit in a reducer stack?
>
> Obviously, the notion of a transducer could be extended to allow distinct 
> input- and output arities, which would fit into reducing-fn arities > 2.
> But could this be made to interact smoothly with tuple-taking and 
> -producing functions?
>
> I've done some exploratory programming on this in the past [1], and it 
> turned out a pretty decent map-handling lib, that comes in handy 
> frequently. Still, only the formulation of transducers opened my eyes to 
> the possibility of efficient multiple-return-values by using transducers in 
> the style of reduce-kv.
>
> kind regards
>
> [1] https://github.com/webnf/webnf/blob/master/base/src/webnf/kv.clj
>
>

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