I hope I am not pre-announcing things before they've been tested to work,
or misinterpreting work that is going on now, but it appears that Leiningen
folks are fixing Windows-specific issues as this conversation is taking
place (perhaps due to this conversation taking place).

https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/issues/1744
https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/issues/1733
https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/pull/1716

Andy


On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Sean Corfield <s...@corfield.org> wrote:

> On Oct 25, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Geoff Caplan <ghcap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've worked on Open Source projects myself and realise the realities. But
> this is a big project, and ignoring the needs of new Windows users is
> surely hurting it significantly? If this was prioritised, I suspect someone
> could be found to do this.
>
>
> The general response has always been: if you’re interested in doing this
> for Windows, we welcome your efforts. It hasn’t been a priority because it
> seems that relatively few Windows users are motivated to solve the problem.
> It also seems that relatively few Windows users are interested enough in
> Clojure for there to be enough pain to motivate people to overcome it. I
> don’t know why that is.
>
> When we started ClojureBridge, we worried that we’d get a lot of WIndows
> users since ClojureBridge was aimed at beginners (new to programming) but
> the reality has been relatively few Windows users and the current
> instructions seem to have worked well for our workshops so far:
>
>
> https://github.com/ClojureBridge/curriculum/blob/master/outline/setup_win7.md
>
>
> https://github.com/ClojureBridge/curriculum/blob/master/outline/setup_win8.md
>
> The vast majority of students have been Mac users (we’ve also had a
> handful of Linux users).
>
> Although I’m primarily a Mac user myself, I grumbled about how hard it was
> to get Clojure / Leiningen installed and running on Windows XP some time
> ago (a few years back), but I don’t know enough about Windows to build an
> installer, so I futzed around and got wget installed (eventually) and then
> the nascent lein.bat worked. Since then, I’ve repeated that install process
> just once, on a Windows 8.1 laptop, using the djpowell installer which
> worked at the time.
>
> In other words, for each individual, it’s painful just once or twice, but
> not painful enough it seems to warrant figuring out an automated solution
> and maintaining it.
>
> Simply assuming that Windows users will be able to figure out all these
> steps while working in the dark is surely unrealistic?
>
>
> The instructions would need to be written by Windows users - and kept up
> to date by Windows users - and I’m sure the community would welcome folks
> stepping up to do that, but I think the reality is that the vast majority
> of Clojure users just don’t have the Windows expertise needed to do much
> about it :(
>
> Sean Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
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>
> "Perfection is the enemy of the good."
> -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880)
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