It would've been nice to have back-stats to tell if efforts like Clojure bridge are having a statistical impact on the communities makeup.
That being said, I'm sure the clojure bridge folk have their own internal metrics to guide their actions and measure outcomes, but it would've been nice to see overall. On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Mars0i <marsh...@logical.net> wrote: > On Monday, October 13, 2014 1:50:13 PM UTC-5, Zack Maril wrote: >> >> Next year, I would appreciate questions that measure the demographics of >> Clojure users be included. Out of the hundreds of people I've heard and >> seen talking about using Clojure, the vast majority of them have been white >> men. I've thought about it for a few days now and I can only think of three >> or four women who I know use Clojure and only a few non white men. I'd like >> to know if selecting Clojure as my default/main programming language means >> that I'll be forced to select from a fairly homogeneous group of potential >> coworkers and miss out on the benefits of a diverse working environment. >> -Zack >> > I agree that including demographic questions would be a nice addition. > In the U.S., the distribution of sexes and racial/ethnic groups among IT > people > <http://dpeaflcio.org/professionals/professionals-in-the-workplace/the-professional-computer-work-force/> > > is pretty skewed toward white males, as I'm sure you would imagine. Even > if the percentages of groups among Clojure programmers were the same as > they are for, say, Java programmers, there would in theory be a lot more > women and non-white Java programmers to choose from if you wanted to build > a diverse shop. That is, in general if you're in a smaller community > (Clojure), your flexibility is more limited. > (Also, although I think the State of Clojure survey is valuable, no one > would claim that it uses a reliable sampling method. That's not a > criticism at all. Coming up with a reliable sample would be difficult, in > practice, The point is that sampling problems can be worse when you're > dealing with small numbers. So for example, if one group of people is a > small but significant minority of all programmers, survey on their > percentages in a relatively small community, such as the Clojure could be > wildly inaccurate, even if their percentages were higher among Clojure > programmers than in the general programming community. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
