On 13 October 2014 22:05, Alex Miller <a...@puredanger.com> wrote: > I do not need a poll to see that Clojure developers are predominantly white > men, although that's also true of most programming languages and a > consequence of larger pervasive issues in the industry. However, I think the > Clojure community has been making progress on increasing diversity through > efforts like ClojureBridge http://www.clojurebridge.org/ and the > Clojure/conj opportunity grants http://clojure-conj.org/grants/.
You might not need a poll to see that the community lacks diversity, but you might need a poll to see if the community is improving its diversity or not. Without measuring things we just don't know. I don't think it's for me to say whether this is best done in the clojure annual survey or not; but it seems we should measure this metric if we care about improving it. R. > You might also find this project's data interesting: > http://alyssafrazee.com/gender-and-github-code.html > > I would humbly submit that you should choose your language based on the best > tool for the job and then work to hire, train, and improve diversity of the > community regardless of what that tool may be. > > Alex > > > > On Monday, October 13, 2014 1:50:13 PM UTC-5, Zack Maril wrote: >> >> Next year, I would appreciate questions that measure the demographics of >> Clojure users be included. Out of the hundreds of people I've heard and seen >> talking about using Clojure, the vast majority of them have been white men. >> I've thought about it for a few days now and I can only think of three or >> four women who I know use Clojure and only a few non white men. I'd like to >> know if selecting Clojure as my default/main programming language means that >> I'll be forced to select from a fairly homogeneous group of potential >> coworkers and miss out on the benefits of a diverse working environment. >> -Zack >> >> >> On Friday, October 10, 2014 5:27:50 PM UTC-5, Jony Hudson wrote: >>> >>> If this is the unofficial survey post of academics using Clojure then I'd >>> better add myself to the list :-) >>> >>> @Bruce do you know what course they're going to be teaching Clojure on at >>> Birkbeck? >>> >>> >>> Jony >>> >>> >>> On Friday, 10 October 2014 08:08:28 UTC+1, Bruce Durling wrote: >>>> >>>> I also know that Birkbeck College University of London is going to be >>>> teaching Clojure this year. >>>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2014 12:01 AM, "Lee Spector" <lspe...@hampshire.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> FWIW I'm another person using Clojure mostly for academic research. And >>>>> for computer science education, e.g. I'm currently teaching a >>>>> Clojure-based >>>>> AI course. I'd be curious to know how many others of us are out there. And >>>>> BTW I think that attention to users in these categories could help to grow >>>>> the community. >>>>> >>>>> -Lee >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:32 AM, Mars0i <mars...@logical.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Thanks for the survey! >>>>> > >>>>> > I have a couple of suggestions/questions: >>>>> > >>>>> > For domains, there are no categories for scientific or other research >>>>> > applications. For example, I mainly use Clojure for writing agent-based >>>>> > models for academic research. Would a set of categories in this area be >>>>> > usedful? >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>>>> your first post. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
