On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Gregg Reynolds <d...@mobileink.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Atamert Ölçgen <mu...@muhuk.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Gregg Reynolds <d...@mobileink.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Atamert Ölçgen <mu...@muhuk.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> This Agreement is governed by the laws of the State of New York and the >>>>> intellectual property laws of the United States of America. >>>> >>>> >>>> This is a very peculiar clause for me. I have just checked GPL text and >>>> it doesn't contain anything like that. I'll look into this further later, >>>> but at this point I'm concerned by a license that is in a way limited to a >>>> geographical location. A location which I don't live. >>>> >>>> The web never lies: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7232485 >>> >> >> I don't know what I'm supposed to learn from that thread. >> > > NY (or London or ?) as world standard for international commerce. > > >> But clicking through I have arrived here: >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-misc-discuss/2009-08/msg00062.html >> >> I don't see why choice of law clauses would necessarily be additional >>>> restrictions. To me, it seems they are more like definitions. They are >>>> telling you that the meaning of the license is interpreted under a >>>> particular established law. If the license, when interpreted under that >>>> law, does not impose any additional restrictions, why couldn't it be >>>> GPL >>>> compatible? >>> >>> It reduces the freedom of people in other jurisdictions. These people, >>> theoretically, could become subject to an alien legal system over which >>> they have no control, no knowledge, and no access to lawyers versed in >>> it. This is a disincentive to use software restricted in this fashion. >> >> >> So it seems, for non-US citizens, choosing a license that doesn't contain >> a choice of law clause is the rational way to go. >> > > Define rational. To me, it looks like absence of a choice of law clause > means I have no idea where I might end up in case of litigation. Name your > favorite corrupt legal system here. With a choice of law clause at least > you can be somewhat confident that the contract can be enforced under some > semblance of the rule of law. > Are you saying the corrupt judges of the corrupt legal system will act differently just because you have chosen a license with a choice of law clause that's referring to the law in effect at other side of the planet? > > -g > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Kind Regards, Atamert Ölçgen -+- --+ +++ www.muhuk.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
