I have been using Eclipse for the last
10 years roughly. Having a polyglot
project made this choice obvious.

Now that our code base is in Clojure
at 99%, I do not feel tempted by emacs.

May give a try with LightTable
however.

I used to do most of my editing with
emacs in the 1980s, using the first
version written in Teco on tops-20.

In these times it was a vast improvement on line by line editing.

But I can't get back to it, the keyboard
shortcuts do not seem to fit in my
brain anymore. Years of WYSIWYG
probably shrank this brain function
to a bare minimum :)

Luc P.


> 
> On Apr 16, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Mikera <mike.r.anderson...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, 17 April 2014 03:57:56 UTC+8, Mike Haney wrote:
> >> The conventional wisdom seems to be that you will end up learning emacs 
> >> eventually if you spend any amount of time doing clojure or lisp, so you 
> >> might as well learn it from the start.  That is definitely the approach 
> >> taken in the braveclojure book, and he may be right, but I have no regrets 
> >> starting with lighttable.
> > 
> > As a counter-example to the "conventional wisdom", I have never really used 
> > Emacs and I've being doing Clojure successfully for around 4 years now. I'm 
> > sure Emacs is great for those who have taken the time to master it, but it 
> > certainly isn't necessary to be productive in Clojure.
> > 
> > I personally use Counterclockwise - this is mainly because I also do a lot 
> > of Java work in Eclipse and it makes the polyglot integration much easier 
> > if you aren't switching tools all the time.
> > 
> > I'm also quite excited about the potential of things like Session or 
> > Gorilla-REPL for exploratory / data science work. I like the way that the 
> > Clojure ecosystem is developing a lot of innovative, plug-able components 
> > and tools that enable different development styles.
> 
> A different kind of counter-example: I've used emacs a fair bit in my decades 
> of Lisping and now years of Clojuring, but I now too use Counterclockwise.
> 
> IMHO emacs has tremendous and beautiful power but unnecessarily awful 
> usability characteristics. I hope that some day someone will develop a 
> Clojure environment with the former but without the later, possibly driven by 
> emacs under the hood.
> 
>  -Lee 
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