On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Steven Degutis <sbdegu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Changing clojure.test seems like the wrong way to go. Being attached to a CA > makes it hard to contribute to.
It's a one-off action. Sign it, send it in. Then you can contribute to Clojure or any of its contrib libraries from then on. Not exactly "hard". > Being attached to Clojure makes it too slow-moving. Not true. Go look at the contrib libraries and see how they have evolved. Nothing holds them back. The number of contributors - and the number of libraries - is growing all the time. > I think everyone involved in the IRC discussion agreed that clojure.test > should be deprecated it in favor of a backward-compatible, faster-moving > successor. I'm certainly all for it. A backward-compatible, faster-moving successor is certainly possible within the contrib system. It is more likely to be used as a dependency by other libraries and it is more discoverable. > But maybe being a contrib-lib isn't a bad idea. I really > don't know much about them and how they work. Don't dismiss it until you know more about them and the process involved. If clojure.test was replaced within the contrib context, I'd be far more likely to contribute to it than to some random third-party library. > But that's what I meant, that he's proposing we start with his lib and add > extensibility in the places we want it. So my response to that still > applies. Your response was to a point he didn't make. > In my experience, when a tool comes out that people think is genuinely > better, these things work themselves out. See how nrepl.el replaced swank. > How leiningen replaced cake. How ring+compojure placed webjure and others. > How Clojure replaced Ruby and CL and Python for a lot of us. True, but none of those were part of Clojure or contrib - and tools.nrepl IS part of contrib now. > The low number of JIRA tickets probably says more about JIRA than > clojure.test. You said those 3 tickets were the only ones against > clojure.test, but in the discussion there were many more complaints. Yes, people tend to complain but don't actually do anything about it - they don't open tickets - so nothing gets done :) -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ "Perfection is the enemy of the good." -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
