Very cool, will have to try it out! That said, I think we should start talking about how to make the traditional debugging cycle accessible in Clojure.
On Friday, May 31, 2013 at 8:27 AM, dgrnbrg wrote: > I'd like to point out a similar library I wrote for Clojure called spyscope: > https://github.com/dgrnbrg/spyscope > > With spyscope, you can write a handful of characters and get the stack frame, > form, and its value pretty-printed and logged to a queue for future querying. > > On Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:28:19 PM UTC-4, David Jacobs wrote: > > That's true -- that's why I wrote up the Letters debugging mini-library for > > Ruby (lettersrb.com (http://lettersrb.com)). However, there's friction > > there, too, and a surprising number of people don't think to do this. > > > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Timothy Baldridge wrote: > > > > > Not really true, most of my programs contain this function: > > > > > > (defn debug [x] > > > (pprint x) > > > x) > > > > > > Now I can do this: > > > > > > (comp foo debug bar) > > > > > > Also, with some reader literal magic, I could write something to let me > > > do this: > > > > > > (myfunc foo #dbg bar) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:12 PM, David Jacobs <da...@wit.io > > > (mailto:da...@wit.io)> wrote: > > > > Two more things: > > > > > > > > 1) printing is often not a viable option for lazily eval-ed sequences > > > > or async processes -- the output gets jumbled! And believe me, when a > > > > new Clojure dev sees that for the first time, he/she wants to quit. > > > > 2) printing is terrible for elegant clojure code -- thing (comp f g h > > > > (partial map z)) -- in order to figure out anything about dynamic data > > > > flowing through, you have to break apart that composition or add a let > > > > binding in one of those functions before returning a value. Both of > > > > those involve a lot of friction. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:00:13 PM UTC-7, raould wrote: > > > > > for a long time haskell did not have a debugger. that sucked, imho. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com > > > > (mailto:clo...@googlegroups.com) > > > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > > > > your first post. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > clojure+u...@googlegroups.com (mailto:clojure%2b...@googlegroups.com) > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > > --- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > > an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com > > > > (mailto:clojure%2b...@googlegroups.com). > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > “One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that–lacking > > > zero–they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C > > > programs.” > > > (Robert Firth) > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com > > > (mailto:clo...@googlegroups.com) > > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > > > your first post. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > clojure+u...@googlegroups.com (mailto:clojure+u...@googlegroups.com) > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > --- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Clojure" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > > email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com > > > (mailto:clojure+u...@googlegroups.com). > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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