I did not say that a debugger was not useful at all, I said that the > importance of having a > debugger is *overestimated* especially in an immutable world. > > Relying on a debugger as an important tool to support coding is like > admitting > the failure of your code before it runs. It's like conceding defeat before > the fight > has started. > > Trying to a avoid debug sessions as much as possible is more productive. > Time spent in debug sessions is not spent on more important issues. > > Luc P. > > I found this kind of logic hard to swallow. I certainly don't look forward to creating a lot of bugs so I can get the joy of using a debugger. But bugs, sometimes very tricky bugs happen, no matter how good your design is. If you apply the logic that "because we can overuse/over rely on it so it is better we don't have it at all" we almost don't need anything in the modern life. Following your logic I would argue that if you don't have an REPL, it will force you to think hard and write perfect code that does not need any testing at all. It just runs, because you don't even have a second chance to know what is going on inside and fix it. The quick REPL loop just encourage people to write crappy code and constantly tinker with it (because they know they can easily found out the cause and fix it). Does that sound right to you?
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