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On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:51 PM, gaz jones <gareth.e.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm starting to miss Ken Wesson.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Gary Trakhman <gary.trakh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I've volunteered on the pycon AV team, in 2009, it's 1000x more work than
>> what you described further up in the thread, a minimum wage worker holding
>> something steady.  It requires a lot of coordination, and I think the cost
>> to the conference would be much higher than InfoQ as well.
>>
>> On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:05:51 PM UTC-4, Cedric Greevey wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Michael Klishin <michael....@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/25 Cedric Greevey <cgre...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget that Youtube has MILLIONS of visitors per month.
>>>>>
>>>>> Imagine the impact if the videos were available when demand for them
>>>>> was actually at its peak, rather than after half the people that had been
>>>>> interested have forgotten all about them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I challenge you to put together a technical videos channel that has
>>>> millions of visitors per month.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Another minute, another straw man. My point is that the needed video
>>> hosting capability already exists (and even has monetize options). Of
>>> *course* it will be expensive to go the "reinvent all needed wheels" route.
>>>
>>> I don't get it. The thread got complaints that the videos were being
>>> produced slowly and inefficiently, yet as soon as someone actually
>>> suggested ways to potentially make the process faster and more efficient,
>>> practically *everyone* leapt to the defense of those same slow and
>>> inefficient methods that they'd previously complained about. I guess
>>> abstract kvetching is okay, but concrete suggestions are frightening
>>> because they might *actually lead to change* or something. Although that
>>> still doesn't explain why someone then had the gall to criticize *me* for
>>> not making concrete and constructive suggestions, when that's exactly what
>>> I *did* do after *other people* had merely complained without making any
>>> suggestions.
>>>
>>> Of course, I don't really *need* to argue anymore, because someone else
>>> helpfully pointed out that an existing conference already does a better
>>> job: pycon. That completely disproves the entire class of arguments along
>>> the lines of "making *conference proceedings* videos is somehow some sort
>>> of a special case and it HAS to be slow and expensive!", of which we've
>>> seen several, sadly including some *after* pycon was first mentioned.
>>>
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