I'm starting to miss Ken Wesson.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Gary Trakhman <gary.trakh...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I've volunteered on the pycon AV team, in 2009, it's 1000x more work than
> what you described further up in the thread, a minimum wage worker holding
> something steady.  It requires a lot of coordination, and I think the cost
> to the conference would be much higher than InfoQ as well.
>
> On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:05:51 PM UTC-4, Cedric Greevey wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Michael Klishin 
>> <michael....@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/25 Cedric Greevey <cgre...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Don't forget that Youtube has MILLIONS of visitors per month.
>>>>
>>>> Imagine the impact if the videos were available when demand for them
>>>> was actually at its peak, rather than after half the people that had been
>>>> interested have forgotten all about them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I challenge you to put together a technical videos channel that has
>>> millions of visitors per month.
>>>
>>
>> Another minute, another straw man. My point is that the needed video
>> hosting capability already exists (and even has monetize options). Of
>> *course* it will be expensive to go the "reinvent all needed wheels" route.
>>
>> I don't get it. The thread got complaints that the videos were being
>> produced slowly and inefficiently, yet as soon as someone actually
>> suggested ways to potentially make the process faster and more efficient,
>> practically *everyone* leapt to the defense of those same slow and
>> inefficient methods that they'd previously complained about. I guess
>> abstract kvetching is okay, but concrete suggestions are frightening
>> because they might *actually lead to change* or something. Although that
>> still doesn't explain why someone then had the gall to criticize *me* for
>> not making concrete and constructive suggestions, when that's exactly what
>> I *did* do after *other people* had merely complained without making any
>> suggestions.
>>
>> Of course, I don't really *need* to argue anymore, because someone else
>> helpfully pointed out that an existing conference already does a better
>> job: pycon. That completely disproves the entire class of arguments along
>> the lines of "making *conference proceedings* videos is somehow some sort
>> of a special case and it HAS to be slow and expensive!", of which we've
>> seen several, sadly including some *after* pycon was first mentioned.
>>
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