emacs-live is a pretty great starting point. It's the 'whole-kitchen-sink', but it's great for finding out what you don't know.
emacs-rocks videos are good (and short) I also put off learning it until late last year, and I'm not completely converted. I *love* it and would be very unhappy if I didn't have it. I missed the project explorer at first, until I figured out that I can C-x C-f and just start typing, and emacs will fuzzy match what I might be looking for, including files in directories other than current. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Colin Yates <colin.ya...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Alex. > > Charlie - I hear you. You are right to (very gently) point out that I > should embrace new idioms. Boy it is hard though :). I have to say that I > too found it much less of a shock then I thought. I am very familiar with > Linux and shell scripts so I had that skillset already which I think helps > the with the paradigm shift. > > I accept your (implicit) challenge - let's continue without a project > explorer :) > > > On 16 January 2013 14:42, Charlie Griefer <charlie.grie...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:29 AM, Colin Yates <colin.ya...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> After 15 off years of using IDEs I am making the jump into Emacs. I have >> read http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started+with+Emacs and >> https://github.com/technomancy/emacs-starter-kit and I am just at the point >> where I have stopped yelling at paredit and starting to appreciate its >> point. >> >> My current major stumbling block though is navigating my project. Whilst >> (I expect) the density and sane namespacing capabilities of Clojure to >> significantly reduce the number of files, that isn't true of everything. In >> particular, ExtJS encourages you to follow the "one file per class". You >> don't have to but eventually you will have more than a handful of files >> regardless. >> >> So my questions: >> - is there a decent project explorer. I really miss the "tree on the >> left, editor on the right" layout >> - is there a decent JS and clojure autocompletion aware plugin >> - other than paredit, nrepl and clojure-mode (and the excellent >> coffee-mode for coffeescript), what other plugins should I install >> >> >> Hi Colin: >> >> No real answers, but I wanted to chime in to say that I'm in the same >> spot. I had been putting off using Emacs until I felt I was "ready", but >> then came to realize that the choice to use Emacs is like the choice to have >> kids. If you wait until you're "ready", you'll never do it. >> >> This is week 2 and it's definitely getting better, altho truth be told it >> wasn't nearly as bad last week as I expected it would be. Been working on >> the desktop with a cheat sheet constantly open on my laptop next to me. >> >> I also miss the project explorer. I'm used to working with multiple files >> at once, having them open in tabs, and being able to easily switch back and >> forth between any of them. I've definitely found that to be a bit jarring in >> Emacs, but trust that at some point I'll get used to the "Emacs way" versus >> trying to find a plugin to provide a project explorer. I have to remind >> myself that all of the files that I'm working with are there, they're just >> not immediately visible. M-x B will let me go thru the list of files open in >> buffers, even if those buffers aren't visible. It's different, but that's >> where the trust comes in :) >> >> The biggest issue I find with the lack of a project explorer is when I >> don't know what directory a particular file is in. Emacs provides great >> autocompletion when you're navigating to a particular file in the >> minibuffer, but that presumes you know exactly where the file is. >> >> I suppose there's always the option of opening a dired buffer (M-x dired) >> or even a shell (M-x shell). That's still not as "easy" or visual as a >> directory tree, but I think the big issue is that Emacs is really all about >> keeping your hands on the (proper) keys. A shell at least lets you continue >> to type your way around your directory structure to locate a file. A >> directory tree/project explorer would likely require grabbing the mouse and >> clicking down into various directories. It's what we're used to, yes… but >> it's not really, um… idiomatic Emacs :D >> >> -- >> Charlie Griefer >> http://charlie.griefer.com >> >> "Give light, and the darkness will disappear of itself." >> -- Desiderius Erasmus >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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