El jueves, 14 de junio de 2012 08:39:19 UTC+2, Kevin Lynagh escribió:
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>> As to your first point and only to clarify, had you made it a wrapper for 
>> D3 and in a node.js application, there would still be no problem in using 
>> it server-side, am I right?
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> Unfortunately, no---D3 requires a full DOM.
> Node.js is just the JavaScript engine.
> There are some fake DOM implementations that people use with node.js for 
> testing and scraping, but they were very rough last time I checked.
> PhantomJS is a very nice project that is a headless WebKit browser, which 
> we've used to run JavaScript with a DOM on the serverside.
> It can get a bit involved to coordinate that with other processes though...
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>> So, in short I've got a toy application in mind to learn either way, but 
>> the end project in mind is a trading application on the browser (which is 
>> my main field right now) that should deploy in as many devices/OS as 
>> possible (so, Javascript again). C2 fits in just perfect.
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> Speaking of toy applications with C2, I just open sourced an 
> implementation of "TodoMVC" using some new features slated for release in 
> C2 0.2.0:
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>     https://github.com/lynaghk/c2-demos/tree/master/todoMVC
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> You might want to check this out and compare it with the n+1 existing 
> JavaScript application framework implementations to see which you like the 
> best.
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>> Many thanks for the answer as well as the talks, which have been trully 
>> great!
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> Thanks!
> The Conj talk was my first experience with the Clojure community, which 
> I've found to be very friendly and welcoming.
> Definitely don't shy away from posting to the list or dropping by #clojure 
> on IRC.
> Personally I'm very interested to hear about experiences of people who are 
> new to both JavaScript and Clojure(Script).
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Oh, I didn't really think about the DOM thing... hehe!

Thanks for the TodoMVC bit, I'll have an in-depth look at it as soon as I 
understand Clojure better. I've already started with a tutorial to grasp 
the basic things and have looked for a book to complete the rest.

I'll sure be posting back with my troubles and experiences. As I haven't 
actually ever used Javascript I'm a good case to prove ClojureScript's 
ability to stay away from it :).

And the talks where great for me as you mentioned everything I wanted: 
functional programming benefits, Javascript/CoffeeScript VS ClojureScript, 
and the impact the way we display data can have (I too think programmers 
need to think lots more about this...)

Thanks a lot, you've been really helpful mate.

Cheers!

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