That's a distinction without a difference. I'm saying the host interop 
overwhelms the cool stuff. That's the kind of code I find foolish to write 
in product development. I don't advocate going back and forth to Java, but 
when the host takes over, that's sign that *it* can be the simpler, better 
choice.

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:25:16 PM UTC-7, David Nolen wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Armando Blancas wrote:
>
>> If anything, the java-in-parens gvec.clj *proves* how difficult it is to 
>> get Java perf in Clojure. The good "real world" perf looks a lot like Java, 
>> regardless of where you place the parens. So I agree with puzzler, Java is 
>> simpler in Java.
>>
>
> I'm not sure by what path you've come to this conclusion. I think gvec.clj 
> demonstrates precisely the kind of code one would never want to write in 
> Java. It's not even possible - Java Generics don't support primitives.
>
> David 
>
>

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