2011/1/18 Ken Wesson <kwess...@gmail.com>

> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Chas Emerick <cemer...@snowtide.com>
> wrote:
> > Any tone you might have picked up from Laurent might be a reaction to
> your ranting about how ccw is apparently rubbish rather than asking for
> help.
>
> Well, excuuuuse me for assuming,


Another day, less tired than today, another attempt.
[OT]
Ken, out of topic question: are you aware of the impact of the way you
"write things" ?
It's quite strange how you avoid the topic when people directly mention it.
And it's also strange how at the same time, you reinforce the problem by
using a writing style with emphasis on "complaining", "ranting", etc. : the
4 "u" in "excuuuuse me" being a good example of what I'm trying to explain.
[/OT]

Now back to business.

Ken, the "raw content" of your feedback report on installing and trying
Counterclockwise has been noted, and I certainly intend to pick ideas in it
for future releases of CCW.

In the mean time, there's a question you did not explicitly answer to: was
there an implicit question in your email, beyond its "informative" nature ?

Last question: would it be possible for you to try write your posts in a
less emotional/sarcastic/condescendent way ? Because it's really counter
productive and does not serve well neither the point you're trying to make,
neither the feelings of the recipient(s) of your mail.

Cheers,

-- 
Laurent


> quite reasonably, that if, after an
> install and restart during which no error messages appeared and
> subsequent to which "create new Clojure project" had appeared in the
> application menus, a feature, that if it existed should obviously be
> prominently featured in certain right-click menus, was not there, then
> it had not been implemented. :)
>
> > Tangentially, IMO it'd be nice if tooling troubleshooting discussions
> didn't hit this list at all, since there are presumably mailing lists and
> other forums specific to each toolset.
>
> Your email is the first place that I encountered the url for any forum
> specific to CCW. Notably, this means that no such url showed up at any
> point during the process of obtaining, installing, and attempting to
> use CCW. Troubleshooting discussions for CCW might show up here less
> frequently if the existence, nevermind the location, of the list you
> mentioned was more apparent to new users. :)
>
> (And, of course, let's not forget that this didn't actually start as a
> troubleshooting discussion. As far as I was aware CCW was working
> properly but simply did not have (easy access to) certain
> functionality that I had expected. So I was reviewing a
> product/starting a feature-request discussion, not starting a
> troubleshooting discussion, as far as I knew at the time.)
>
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