Not one person has ever said *anything* about Clojure not
interoperating smoothly with Java, or abandoning the JVM. Suggesting,
implying, or speculating about anything otherwise, bluntly or not, is
sort of laughable given how much work Rich has been putting into 1.2
(and later, with the equiv/prim/etc stuff) getting *closer* to the JVM
(with e.g. deftype/record/interface), and therefore clojure-in-clojure.
An oldie-but-goodie post from Chouser talking about what clojure-in-
clojure is and why it matters:
http://blog.n01se.net/?p=41
And, if writing data structures and such in Clojure that have perf
characteristics identical to those written in Java isn't "getting
anything done", I need a drink. :-P
- chas
On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:42 PM, cageface wrote:
To put it more bluntly - the day that clojure no longer interoperates
smoothly with java is the day it becomes useless to me. I'm all for
hiding the guts from beginners but it's going to be a good long while
before you can actually get anything done with clojure without
directly interfacing with java.
I don't know what the implementation plans are exactly for clojure-in-
clojure but abandoning the JVM would be extremely unwise.
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