On 29 June 2010 06:14, Michael Richter <ttmrich...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ah. The Clojure community has already started down the road to Common > Lisp-style, smugness-generated obscurity and disdain. Bravo! Well-played!
Not at all. While we're discussing general beliefs regarding the possible target audience for Clojure (nb. put this way, this does seem kind of pointless, no?), all sorts of newcomers' questions are being answered -- here, on #clojure, on SO &c. I won't go and dig around for examples of such questions being answered by the "elitist" contributors to this thread, but I find it quite probable that such a search would not be in vain (nor would it necessarily be particularly difficult). I'm sure that some time from now, Clojure will have a nice ecosystem of newcomer-friendly startup scripts, improved development experience (including the setup part) &c. while having continued to be useful to those always on the lookout for new concepts, more expressive power etc. Then the non-believers in the friendly newbie experience will have ceased to grumble, because no harm will have been done to their purposes either. ;-) The only reason I felt compelled to contradict some of the opinions presented here is that I'd rather not see efforts towards improving the newcomer experience being chilled by unwarranted grumpiness. There's no point in overstating the actual scale of said grumpiness... Sincerely, Michał -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
