> So I wonder how much making the first few baby steps easier is really
> going to help the uptake of Clojure. I have to imagine that the kind
> of person that can't figure out  a CLASSPATH is going to have his head
> explode when he has to figure out how to restructure all his
> iterations in terms of loop/recur.

This discussion, although interesting, is ridiculous.    I've been
doing this for nearly 40 years and if I'd listened to all the people
who worried that new languages were to hard for noobs, I'd still be
writing Fortran or Cobal.    C was hard when it first came out - for
most of the same reasons people are using with Clojure.    Clojure is
a great language now and can only get better because it mixes the
greatest language ever invented (Lisp) with the best library
available.    People have complained for years about the limitations
of Lisp, but it's still with us (whatever happened to PL1?)    All
Lisp has ever needed was a universal library.   Let the faint of heart
turn away - they will come back.

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