Full disclosure, I never liked ruby or python, I'm more of a perl/c++/ R guy.
I'm new to clojure as well, and love it. I don't mind learning LISP at all. I find it refreshing. It takes the bureaucracy out of Java. When I can, I explore ways in which incanter, cascalog, hadoop, mahout, weka, and compojure might play nice together. If they can, I will be pretty ecstatic. I'm not a CLASSPATH expert by any means, but I think Leiningen should be the tool to deal with all that. I really like the idea of the project.clj file. I just add a few lines to that and lein does the rest. I think letting Leiningen solve installation problems is a good way to go. Even for newbies. Go Leiningen!! ~Avram On Jun 28, 12:58 pm, cageface <milese...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 28, 12:25 pm, Daniel Gagnon <redalas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I believe that the success of ruby is due in great part to *Why's Poignant > > Guide to Ruby* and *Learn You a Haskell* is doing the same for Haskell. It's > > fun to read, it holds your hand in setting up everything you have to and it > > makes you want to learn more. > > I'm not so sure. Certainly things like the poignant guide made getting > started with Ruby easier, but I'd argue that the success of Ruby has a > lot more to do with how simple the core language it is and how easy it > makes it to get simple things done. Conversely, despite increasingly > beginner-friendly docs and one-shot installers I don't get the > impression there's a bit upsurge of interest in Haskell outside of > circles of elites or language afficionados. Haskell just isn't the > kind of language that lets you slap a couple of web forms on a > database 30 minutes after getting started. It's a power language for > power users, like Clojure. I've been following FP for about ten years > now and in that time I've seen Ruby and Python grow like gangbusters > while languages like Haskell make very small, incremental inroads into > niche areas. I don't expect this to change. > > Again though, I'm all for making the beginner's experience no harder > than it absolutely has to be. No point having people turned away by > things extrinsic to the language. > > I often find myself frustrated browsing through the docs that there > aren't concrete examples for most of the functions in the API. I > always have to google their usage or find an example in the clojure > code. I'd be happy to help flesh out the docs with some usage examples > if this kind of help is wanted. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
