JavaFx has one other major issue. The scene graph isn't accessible outside of JavaFx script.
On Friday, May 28, 2010, Luke VanderHart <luke.vanderh...@gmail.com> wrote: > My understanding may be wrong, but I think JavaFX is intended more as > a competitor to Flash or Silverlight than a GUI toolkit. It'd probably > be great for a Clojure games framework, or for simple graphical > drawing and such, but I'm not sure it's appropriate for a complex, > high performance GUI. In fact, according to the Wiki page, if you want > to use desktop style widgets, you actually end up embedding Swing > components *within* JavaFX anyway. > > On May 28, 9:59 am, mmwaikar <mmwai...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I work on .Net, so my observation could be totally wrong, but I think >> JavaFx could be an option to consider (specially because of its JSON >> kind of syntax). >> I am working on a WPF project currently, and although WPF is big and >> complex, the kind of UIs one can build with it is amazing, and JavaFx >> looked similar to me in intent and purpose. >> >> So I am really surprised why no one mentioned JavaFx. Is it because >> it's new? >> >> On May 27, 11:18 am, Luke VanderHart <luke.vanderh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > My side project is a fairly complex GUI application written in >> > Clojure. Recently, I've become irritated with using Java interop for >> > everything. It's not that Clojure doesn't have nice java interop - it >> > does. It's just that when interacting with a GUI framework, which is a >> > large part of my app, I have to be back in mutable object-oriented >> > land, worrying about class hierarchies, mutable state, locks, etc. >> > Yucky. >> >> > So, with a perhaps dangerous lack of sanity and without any guarantee >> > of success, I've decided to try my hand at writing an idiomatic >> > Clojure GUI library. If I have success (which I doubt) I will of >> > course make it available as open source. >> >> > I intend for it to be mostly declarative, with a nice DSL for defining >> > GUI elements. Each component will also implement map, and use one of >> > Clojure's reference types as an interface for inspecting / updating >> > its state. I may also implement some aspects of Functional Reactive >> > Programming wherever it's convenient to do so. >> >> > What you all must help me decide is what GUI framework to use as the >> > underpinnings of it. It's genuinely hard to decide. I have at least >> > some experience with all of them, so I have no strong preference, but >> > I'd like to get your input. I did consider trying to make it abstract >> > enough that you could plug in *any* of them under the hood, but >> > there's enough differences between the frameworks that that would get >> > very ugly very fast. >> >> > Possibilities are: >> >> > AWT >> > Pros: native widgets, bundled with Java, low-level >> > Cons: few widgets, considered somewhat obselete >> >> > Swing >> > Pros: bundled with Java, good widget selection >> > Cons: non-native widgets >> >> > SWT >> > Pros: native widgets, widely used >> > Cons: requires platform-specific libs >> >> > QT Jambi >> > Pros: native widgets, huge widget selection, highly-regarded framework >> > Cons: requires platform-specific libs, writing custom widgets is >> > hairy, momentum and support seem to be lagging since Nokia dropped >> > official support. >> >> > Remember, the actual API won't matter - that will be completely >> > abstracted away. So try to focus on the framework's look and feel. >> > Also let me know if I've missed any of the framework's key >> > characteristics. >> >> > Thanks! >> >> > -Luke > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- Omnem crede diem tibi diluxisse supremum. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
