On 2010 Mar 21, at 11:52 PM, Cosmin Stejerean wrote:
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Luc Préfontaine <lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca > wrote: Yes we could have a complete package to run Clojure from the shell command line but how far could someone go with this
to build a workable system without an IDE ?

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Comments anyone ?


I can get pretty far writing an application in Python with nothing more than good command line support and syntax highlighting in any text editor. Anything extra like completions, refactoring, etc, are just nice-to-haves. I don't see why an IDE is required for writing workable Clojure apps.

+1

I use a Mac with MacPorts. Pulled down clojure and clojure-contrib ports. Only thing I had to do (and this was -not- easy to figure out), was create a .clojure file that pointed to the contrib jar. But that is how the clj wrapper in the clojure port works. I suppose I could also
muck around with my class path, or do other things...

There is a high Java tax on using clojure for those of us coming from non-Java languages. I'm willing to accept that I need to read the Java docs on how strings, or, whatever, work.

But getting clojure itself set up? Please, do -not- make "pre-existing familiarity with an IDE" a prerequisite. There are enough learning curves as it is.

-Doug

P.S. I used Emacs back when Gosling was writing his version of it at CMU, before Java even existed, and now I use (g)vim. It's nice that there are other IDEs working with clojure, but not so nice to assume non-Java users are using some VisualStudio or other heavy-weight IDE.

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