Thanks for the encouragement. I've already got the book.

I suppose eventually I will have to learn Java. I have been putting it
off because I hear a lot of Java-bashing from programmers, and have
also noted that this is generally the impetus for the development of
languages such as Clojure and Scala and the dozens of others. On the
other hand, Java can't be any more difficult than C or C++ that I
already know. With languages such as Factor or Python I am relying on
the bindings to C and C++ programs, so with Clojure I would be relying
on the bindings to Java programs, which might be an improvement.

Can you recommend a book or online resource for learning what I need
to know about Java? I saw the book "Learning Java" with the tigers on
the cover and it looked pretty good, but also pretty extensive ---
quite a lot to digest there, which might be why they put a large meat-
eater on the cover.

If anybody is interested, I can tell you what my intended application
for Clojure is, and you can tell me about how you would go about such
a project. I will just be writing toy programs initially, but I do
actually have a specific purpose for Clojure in mind.

On Sep 16, 11:34 pm, Krukow <karl.kru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My recommendation would be: Don't wait learning Clojure! Start now,
> buy Stuart's book "Programming Clojure". Once you get hungry for more
> "real" problems, start reading up on Java - but don't waste time
> learning too much about syntax and the many intricacies of Java
> semantics; stick with the basics: classes, classpath, using jars and
> standard APIs, etc. Really understanding Java takes forever.

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