I'm sorry, Ged.  I didn't mean to demean the work of Julius Plenz, asulfrian, 
or yourself.  I stepped into my current position on the ClamAV team just over 
two years ago and in my time here there have been many tasks that have been on 
the backburner or ignored entirely for multiple years.  We have been working to 
try to rectify this but it is a slow process.  I do appreciate your work to try 
to update and test the original patch.

Alberto saw the discussions here demonstrating a need for this feature.  He 
offered to share a similar patch he had working in production on his systems, 
one that was updated to apply cleanly with the 0.102 code base.  I wanted to 
share it immediately with you all.  You're right that I should've given more 
credit to the authors of the prior work.  It was only my intention to credit 
Alberto so as not to give the false impression that his work was my own. 

Regards,
Micah

On 9/13/19, 11:15 AM, "clamav-users on behalf of G.W. Haywood via 
clamav-users" <clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net on behalf of 
clamav-users@lists.clamav.net> wrote:

    Hi there,
    
    On Thu, 12 Sep 2019, Micah Snyder (micasnyd) via clamav-users wrote:
    
    > https://bugzilla.clamav.net/show_bug.cgi?id=10979#c19
    > This patch applies to the current head of dev/0.102 ...
    
    If the development version is a step too far, the two files which I
    posted on September 10th implement a patch which has been sitting on
    the ClamAV Bugzilla (at #c2) for nearly three years:
    
    https://bugzilla.clamav.net/show_bug.cgi?id=10979#c13
    https://bugzilla.clamav.net/show_bug.cgi?id=10979#c14
    
    These replace two files in the current (v0.101.4) release, to produce
    results very similar to those from the patch at #c19 for v0.102.x.
    
    Unfortunately there are so many cosmetic changes in the development
    version that a direct comparison of the patches might be tedious, but
    the essentials are the same.  Load new data in a separate thread, and
    in the meantime scan using the old database; switch database pointers
    (virtually instantaneous) on reload completion; ignore database reload
    requests if reloading is already in progress; and when the old data is
    no longer needed, drop it.  Test results and/or observations welcome.
    
    This will not of course help start-up times at all, but it's easy to
    arrange to load a smaller database at startup if that's what you feel
    you must do - there has been a discussion about using what I'll call
    non-standard databases recently.  Personally I don't see the need for
    anything like that; the runtimes of my clamd daemons are rarely less
    than months, even if I'm testing things, so it's of no consequence if
    loading the data at the beginning of a run takes a couple of minutes.
    Since I'm only scanning mail, rather than scan it with less than the
    full deck I'll just delay it a couple of minutes.  Until I worked on
    this patch, that's what I'd been doing on every database reload and,
    as I've always maintained, it's really no big deal.
    
    > ...do not confuse the fact that we are paid with the thought that
    > you are paying us.
    
    I'm not sure that ham-fisted attempt at a justification was entirely
    called for, Micah.
    
    You had a patch for several years.  Then, two and a half days after I
    posted the two files shown above, you're galvanized into action; but
    you studiously avoid mention of the prior work by several people, and
    then imply that people are confused when everything is crystal clear.
    
    > We of course always appreciate help from the community ...
    
    Perhaps you could try to make it a little more obvious.
    
    -- 
    
    73,
    Ged.
    
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