On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Jim Preston <jimli...@commspeed.net> wrote:

>
> On Apr 16, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Aecio F. Neto wrote:
>
>  On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Eric Rostetter
>> <rostet...@mail.utexas.edu>wrote:
>>
>>  Quoting Gary MacKay <g...@edisoninfo.com>:
>>>
>>> No one.  Only very old installs, not all installs.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So who made who god to decide which servers get shutdown?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No servers were shutdown.  And the creators of the software and providers
>>> of the updates (same people) decided, which is their right as the
>>> creators
>>> of the software and the providers of the updates.  If you don't like it,
>>> then don't use their updates and/or software.  Your choice.
>>>
>>
>>
>> This is semantics, servers/services were stopped and this is no good no
>> matter what.
>> There are tons of other situations that spread out virus too and clamav
>> team
>> cannot avoid them all too.
>> Causing interruption of a service one does not manage and is not
>> responsible
>> for is totally intrusive to say the less.
>>
>> I just hope all this noise contributes to such situation never to happen
>> again in any software I use or manage.
>>
>> If one can consider this as normal just because it was announced to
>> happen,
>> I should subscribe to the kernel list immediately. Should I?
>> LOL
>>
>
> No, servers / services stopped because that is what the SA (or whoever you
> want to blame for setting up the system) CHOSE to have happen! If you want
> mail to be delivered when clamd fails, configure your system to do so I
> personally prefer to have my mail stopped rather than irresponsibly sending
> mail. If spam / infected mail were not a problem, then open relay mail
> systems would be the norm and not blacklisted..... Alas, we do not live in a
> perfect world :^(
> So, if you feel that the "Mail must go through", configure your system to
> do so and stop whining that you failed to have your system configured to do
> what YOU wanted it to do.
>

clamd is a service and it was stopped.
Anyway, I do not agree with the approach that was used.

No external entity has the right to interfere with behavior of a system.
When that happens, normally, it is called invasion or cracking or you name
it.

I manage some web filtering proxies that uses clamd. When clamd fails it
fails. And yes, because I chose it to.
Fortunately, I had upgraded all my installs before April, 15 and I was *not*
affected. I am just putting my voice against a practice that I do not agree.

Similar to this: I do not want kernel to should itself after some time
because it identified to have  a bug or so. I do not want my SQL server to
shutdown itself to prevent something. Etc.

This is all I had to say about that.
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