--On 19 February 2009 08:47:51 -0800 GESBBB <ges...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> From: Stuart Rowan strr-cl...@decisionsoft.co.uk
>
> [snip]
>
>> > Can we not have the list unsubscribe link in the footer, too? It's a
>> > legal requirement in the UK to have an easy to use mechanism to
>> > unsubscribe to marketing  emails. The definition of marketing would
>> > definitely extend to promotion of free open source software. Whether
>> > it also extends to a support list like this might be debatable, but
>> > surely the developers of software developed mainly in response to the
>> > spamming industry ought to be following best practice.
>> >
>> > As long as most MTAs don't expose the List-Unsubscribe: header (none
>> > do by default, as far as I'm aware), it can't be described as "easy to
>> > use". Some MTAs even make it really hard to find the full message
>> > headers.
>
> I believe you are referring to MUAs;

Yes.

> however, in any case, what ones are
> your describing? Off hand, I cannot think of an MUA that does not let the
> user inspect the email headers, although I am sure there must be a few.

note the phrase "by default", and the word "easy". 99% of email users don't 
know that there are more headers than From, To, Date, and Subject. For 
them, it's irrelevant that they can view the full headers if they want to.

> In any case, there is an RFC, I don't remember the number, that specifies
> what group information should be included in the email header. This group
> meets that requirement.

Right, because all email users are familiar with RFCs!

> For the record, I have belonged to groups that prominently displayed an
> "UNSUBSCRIBE" link at the bottom of each post; yet, some moron will still
> post a 'REMOVE' notice directly to the group. You can't fix stupid.

It's not stupidity, it's ignorance. But, the onus is on software developers 
to make the stuff easy to use.

-- 
Ian Eiloart
IT Services, University of Sussex
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