On 2008/10/03 06:35 PM Eric Rostetter wrote:
> Quoting "David F. Skoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> Where did I insult?  (The OP was not me.)
> 
> I didn't mean to imply you insulted them.  I was pointing out that
> the OP did, and that it is inappropriate to do so.  Didn't mean
> to imply anything about you personally.

I did not demand anything, I expressed how the current behaviour is 
seriously irritating to me and many other people. I also gave numerous 
alternate possible (and better) behaviours that would make me happy. 
It's a simple problem to fix, but it exists for a reason. It's not 
exactly something you miss easily in testing. I just want to know that 
reason. I don't seem to remember calling anyone an idiot or saying 
it's garbage, I said it's behaving in an unnecessarily unfriendly way 
to cause my entire mail system to break. If it's insulting to be 
unhappy about that, I apologise.

The response should be to give me a good idea of why such an obviously 
bad behaviour exists in the first place and whether I can expect the 
situation to change. Either it can be fixed, I can be convinced of why 
I'm wrong, or I can use something else. If the ClamAV 
community/developers position is that everyone should use something 
else, well that's something I'm sure everyone (namely those who run 
the thousands/millions of servers actively using it) would like to know.

What seems bogus is why someone would flippantly hand wave a problem 
with the arbitrary reason that the version number is still <1. Linux 
kernel is 2.6 does that mean it's only 2 more than stable or what? 
Windows kernel is version 6, does that mean it is 4 better than Linux? 
I'm sorry, but that sort of answer seems to be from a somewhat novice 
perspective. Courier is not version 1 and I'm sure they would be 
highly offended if you said their package should not be regarded as 
usable because of it. Some other meaningless and apparently unstable 
packages which should be avoided by that reason are inetd, ifupdown, 
PAM libraries, OpenSSL, Telnet, the entire USB subsystem of Linux, 
Aptitude, l2tpd and Grub. I guess I'm not allowed to complain if Grub 
magically refuses to boot my machine because it's developers decided 
to spell something in UK English or whatever... Lets just not 
entertain that excuse.

Still, no one has managed to answer just *why* in a simple key-value 
configuration file with no option dependence has to refuse to start 
when it encounters an unknown option. It can happily log, or create a 
big spew in stdout on start-up and all would be well. Most 
importantly, why does it have to refuse to start when the developers 
_know_ that they have just deprecated that option?

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