Eric Rostetter wrote:

>> The canonical situation
>> is one in which a small (but technically adept) company is responsible
>> for hundreds of Clam installations for technically naive customers.

> Maybe you should manage their installations for them?

We do!  That's the point.  WHEN (not IF) we have to upgrade Clam in a hurry
because of a security issue, we have to go and fix the config files.  If
Clam did the accept/deprecate/reject cycle, we could do security upgrades
in a big hurry, and then go fix the config files in a more leisurely and
thoughtful way.

>> In this situation, the ClamAV policy really hurts.

> It can, yes, but it doesn't have too.  And you could instead use
> a production level AV product instead, if you wanted.

I consider Clam production-level.

>> Oh, come on.  ClamAV might be numbered 0.xx, but for all practical
>> purposes, it is widely-used production-ready software.

> The authors obviously don't agree, or they would have released it by
> now.

Let's ask them: ClamAV developers:  Do you consider ClamAV to be
production-ready for real systems?

> Don't use non-production level software if you want production level
> support.

I don't *want* support.  I'm just trying to improve ClamAV.

> Yes, and it is okay to ask the authors to consider this for future
> inclusion, but it is not okay to insult them for not yet providing
> it or to demand that they now provide it, when you are using
> pre-released software.

Where did I insult?  (The OP was not me.)

> I have a problem with people _demanding_ it be improved right now, for
> free, when the software is still in development stage, and they are not
> offering to help with any changes in any way (financially, code patches,
> etc).

I've contributed both money and patches to Clam in the past.

Regards,

David.
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