James,
James Kosin wrote:
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Jim Redman wrote:
Of all the packages I install (Fedora), clamav is the only modern
package that fails to install and just work.
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Jim
You are ranting to the wrong group of people. ClamAV has nothing to
do with RPM packages or maintaining Fedora releases of the extra
packages they have.
If you want to stay more up to date on these, you should consider
maybe ATRPMs or DAG for a repository for ClamAV.
Or take the route many here will offer of compiling from SOURCE.
I agree and disagree. The package management systems (yum, aptget, etc)
are the user view of any part of a linux distro. I'm also assuming that
posting to the user list reaches package maintainers (perhaps) as well
as users and software maintainers. (Maybe even knowledgeable users who
could improve the packages and feed the changes back into the ClamAV
distro - if you can imagine that!)
If you assume that people want to go back to the "good old days" of
compiling from source and dealing with the hassle of dependencies,
manually updating with every release, etc. etc. then I think your
mistaken - I can say for sure that I don't. Similarly for downloading
only the "official" tar or whatever and starting configuration from there.
So, if you're saying that the maintainers of ClamAV should have no
interest making packages simpler and more reliable, then I disagree.
I don't think that it's reasonable to expect the packagers (in my case I
yum'd from Dries) to be able to customize every package, so what's
delivered is largely what leaves the maintainers hands as far as such
things as configuration files go.
That doesn't mean that I think that the ClamAV maintainers should be
responsible for the packaging, just that I think they should be working
to make packaging painless and not against it.
It's seems that I have a philosophical difference here. There almost
seems to be a "no pain, no gain" mentality, that installing ClamAV
SHOULD be complex and difficult, you don't really deserve the software
unless you've suffered through the installation. I find this surprising
since, to me, minimizing virus penetration is a benefit to all, and the
wider the audience the better - even brain-dead sysadmins.
Jim
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