On 2005-01-07 22:22:56 +0300, Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
> 7-???-2005 13:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Maul) wrote to ClamAV users ML
> <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>:
> 
> JM> make it into a users mailbox.  ClamAV is not intended to be run after
> JM> the fact on an already infected machine.
> JM> I really dont see what the issue is here.  You appear to be in a rare
> JM> situation
> 
>      Infected machine _isn't_ _rare_ situation.

No, but

1) I think real viruses which infect other programs are getting
rare. I certainly can't remember when I've seen the last one :-) These
days I see only worms and trojans, which are self-contained. Maybe the
situation is different in Russia than it is here, but I don't see why it
should be.

2) Your situation is rare among people who want to use ClamAV. Most
people who consider ClamAV want to use it on a mail server which has
internet access. I am aware that UUCP is still in use, and even some
less connected ways of delivering mail (in some parts of India mail is
delivered by bus), but so far there hasn't been much demand for
non-internet methods of delivering updates. If you don't have internet
access, maybe you should ask whether someone could mail the updates to
you.

> JM> and for this i feel your pain, but what you also seem to be
> JM> doing is attempting to make a program fit where it was not designed.  I
> 
>      Hm. There was promotions, that ClamAV is comparable to other commercial
> _antiviruses_, and I, as free software preferer, was plan to use it as my
> (main) antivirus on my home machine.

Since ClamAV is advertised as "a GPL anti-virus toolkit for UNIX"
(http://www.clamav.net/abstract.html), and there are no viruses for any
Unix in the wild, it is pretty obvious that ClamAV was not designed to
protect the machine it is running on, but to protect other machines.

Like any good tool, ClamAV is used for tasks for which it wasn't
designed. However, if you do that, you must be prepared to invest a
little work by yourself, and can't expect everything to work out of the
box.

        hp

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