Hi,

This is just my opinion RE: Juniper vs going from IOS to IOS XR but the change 
in OS "structure" between going from IOS (6500/7600) to going to JunOS OR IOS 
XR is... about the same.

Also I like my ASR9001s much more than my MX80. For what it's worth.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Howard Leadmon
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 3:24 PM
To: Gert Doering <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR1000 Info..

On 10/31/2019 2:04 PM, Gert Doering wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Actually I'm amazed at all the newfangled gear which promises to do 
> everything and then fails at essentials that *my 6500s* have been 
> doing well from day 1...
  I have really loved my  65xx's and 7600's that I have had, and my 7606 is 
running to this very day, passing many bits very happily.
> OTOH, my 6500s are really falling apart, and we're fairly busy getting 
> rid of them (replacing the switch layer with Arista Trident2+/3 MLAG 
> pairs, routing for "things without ACLs" on there as well, routing for
> "things with ACLs" yet undecided)...   BGP currently goes to ASR9001s,
> but the lack of ports and the price insanity of ASR9901 make me look 
> at MX204 and Arista Jericho gear...

  I had a few tell me to look at the 9901, but agree it's far to rich for my 
blood, we are just small fry's running in a handful of racks, so I have a hard 
time justifying a 100K  for a router.   So do you feel that the ASR9001 would 
be a good choice for the next 5 years or so, and if I am correct on the 9001 I 
think the licensing is all there from the start, so it should just play?   I 
think the only thing that made me blink at the unit, is I only saw dual power 
supplies, granted it's a rare day you see the processors drop over.
> I really like my ASR9001s, but the Cisco BU and OS confusion does not 
> really make me confident that this is the company I want to trust for 
> the next 15+ years... (unlike the 6500s that really *really* served us 
> well for a loooong time).

  As I mentioned in my prior message to Mark, I even brought up the option of a 
Juniper, the MX240's seem to be reasonable, but a great many on the Juniper 
list no less warned me to be cautious and said if I wanted to consider JunOS I 
best have a unit to lab with for a while first.   That and list with so many 
other vendors, the licensing looked every bit as much of a pain in the 
backside.   So after all that I went back to looking at the ASR1006 and ASR9001 
for my task.    As I also mentioned in my prior message back to the list, I 
really just need a good BGP speaker with capacity for a few million IPv4/IPv6 
routes, so I am not fork-lifting it out in a years time.  I also need say 8 
10GE ports to connect to my upstreams, peers, and the rest of my internal 
network..

>
> gert
>

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Howard Leadmon
PBW Communications, LLC
http://www.pbwcomm.com


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