On 10/31/19 12:23 PM, Howard Leadmon wrote:
On 10/31/2019 2:04 PM, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
Actually I'm amazed at all the newfangled gear which promises to do
everything and then fails at essentials that *my 6500s* have been doing
well from day 1...
I have really loved my 65xx's and 7600's that I have had, and my
7606 is running to this very day, passing many bits very happily.
OTOH, my 6500s are really falling apart, and we're fairly busy getting
rid of them (replacing the switch layer with Arista Trident2+/3 MLAG
pairs, routing for "things without ACLs" on there as well, routing for
"things with ACLs" yet undecided)... BGP currently goes to ASR9001s,
but the lack of ports and the price insanity of ASR9901 make me look
at MX204 and Arista Jericho gear...
I had a few tell me to look at the 9901, but agree it's far to rich
for my blood, we are just small fry's running in a handful of racks,
so I have a hard time justifying a 100K for a router. So do you
feel that the ASR9001 would be a good choice for the next 5 years or
so, and if I am correct on the 9001 I think the licensing is all there
from the start, so it should just play? I think the only thing that
made me blink at the unit, is I only saw dual power supplies, granted
it's a rare day you see the processors drop over.
I really like my ASR9001s, but the Cisco BU and OS confusion does not
really make me confident that this is the company I want to trust for
the next 15+ years... (unlike the 6500s that really *really* served
us well for a loooong time).
As I mentioned in my prior message to Mark, I even brought up the
option of a Juniper, the MX240's seem to be reasonable, but a great
many on the Juniper list no less warned me to be cautious and said if
I wanted to consider JunOS I best have a unit to lab with for a while
first. That and list with so many other vendors, the licensing
looked every bit as much of a pain in the backside. So after all
that I went back to looking at the ASR1006 and ASR9001 for my task.
As I also mentioned in my prior message back to the list, I really
just need a good BGP speaker with capacity for a few million IPv4/IPv6
routes, so I am not fork-lifting it out in a years time. I also need
say 8 10GE ports to connect to my upstreams, peers, and the rest of my
internal network..
I want to chime in on this -
I have always been cisco shop. One day, I really had had enough with the
oppressive pricing of 10G ports so after a lot of looking around, I
wound up going with a juniper mx240, dual 1800-4 route engines and 16
10G ports for $25k. I was able to go from zero juniper-foo to a fully
configured bgp peering / ospf igp setup in roughly a week, and since
then, have been able to make granular configuration improvements that
just keep getting better over time. I quickly discovered the fact of the
configuration not being committed until I 'commit' and being able to
automatically roll-back if I make a bad mistake, and a whole host of
other awesome features as documented in juniper day one documents. I
have become totally sold on the platform and just shudder to think of
how much productivity I have lost fighting various ciscoisms that just
dont seem to exist here. Not to soapbox too much, but don't listen to
nay sayers. I was able to make the leap pretty easy and I think you
could too.
Mike-
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