Glenn, I use MATE and ORCA.
Do you know if the new CHIRP will be accessible in any other operating system? Thanks, David N1EA On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 23:52 K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email> wrote: > Hi David, > There is only one screenreader for the GUI in Linux, that is orca. > So you can try running just orca > and if it isn't there, you can do the equivalent of: > sudo apt install orca > for your flavor of Linux. > Make sure you don't use the mouse, otherwise it won't be a test of > accessibility. > > Glenn > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* David Boucha <bou...@gmail.com> > *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> > *Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2023 9:58 PM > *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build > > Hi Glenn, > > Have you tried running chirp-next on Ubuntu? Or tried running it straight > from the git repo? I don't use a screen reader, but I was able to run chirp > directly from the latest branch in the git repo just fine, and without > flatpack . > > Which screen reader do you use on TV Ubuntu? I could try testing it > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2023, 8:50 PM K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email> wrote: > >> Hi, >> Excuse me, but I prefer windows 7, although I got a new computer, and >> bought a key for 7, installed 10, and then put 7 in a VM, because I like it >> better, and if it gets infected, I have backups of the VM. >> Now, on Chirp, since it went to having to use flatpak, Blind folks >> haven't been able to use it. >> So if I want to use Chirp in Ubuntu, it's got to be Ubuntu using an old >> Python, and Chirp already installed. >> And Chirp is so difficult in windows for people using a screenreader, I >> would guess that less than 5% of screenreader users have the screenreader >> skills to get around the lack of access to Chirp in windows. >> Glenn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Matt Novak-Zarate <m...@novakzarate.com> >> *To:* chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com >> *Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2023 9:01 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build >> >> Apologies ahead of time for the novel I've written below, but I have >> thoughts on all this, coming from a background working in fields that >> pertain to this whole Win 7/Win 10, old Chirp/new Chirp dilemma. Feel free >> to skip if you don't care! >> >> If someone has, for whatever reason, stuck with Windows 7 up until this >> point, what makes us think they're going to be able to run a virtual >> machine, much less one with a Linux install on it, even if it is Ubuntu? >> Not just from a technical ability standpoint, what makes us think their >> hardware can support running multiple OSes, especially when one of them is >> Windows? That's not a lightweight ask, especially on DDR3 RAM and >> spinning-platter HDDs. >> >> Also, if they're going to go through all the rigamarole of setting up a >> VM, why are we bothering with the old version of Ubuntu and Chirp? Use the >> latest Ubuntu and get new or old Chirp on there! >> >> Here's an alternative: if someone is interested in using their old >> hardware and the newer version of Chirp, and they're limited from upgrading >> either their hardware or their OS, it could be a good idea to just install >> Linux. Mint XFCE would be a solid distro for stability and compatibility on >> older, outdated hardware, it's free, and let's be real, if they're into >> HAM, they're down with learning and tinkering, which is a perfect mentality >> to have going into learning Linux, even Mint/Ubuntu. >> >> This is, of course, a good amount of work. Downloading and making >> installer media may be a challenge. Backing up data for use in the new OS. >> Installing Linux, even Mint, poses challenges to neophytes. But it is a lot >> more viable, and long-lasting, a solution than ad hoc-ing some bodge job of >> VMs and outdated OSes. And secure, too. Windows 7 machines should not be >> connected to anything that can reach the public Internet. Period. They're a >> massive security risk. This would resolve that, albeit with a goodly amount >> of work. >> >> Just my... three cents on it. Too long an email for it to be just two >> lol. >> >> Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED Talk. >> >> Matt >> >> Sent from Proton Mail mobile >> -------- Original Message -------- >> On Jan 2, 2023, 21:08, K0LNY_Glenn < glenn@ervin.email> wrote: >> >> >> >> Well if it is the only someone can use Chirp, either for accessibility, >> or because of operating system, I see nothing wrong with it. >> I may DD my thumb drive with Ubuntu and Chirp on it, if I can find a >> drive with just that on it, and give a link to anyone who wants it. >> Some of my thumb drives are multiboot, with several operating systems on >> it, so I'll need to go through a bunch of them to find one that has Ubuntu >> 18 and Chirp. >> >> Glenn >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Scott Lopez <scot...@gmail.com> >> *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2023 7:22 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build >> >> I can't imagine anyone here wants to be responsible for setting up, >> distributing, and supporting a VM image of what is now outdated and no >> longer supported software. I know I wouldn't want to be. There's a reason >> the software is outdated, the best solution is to keep up. >> >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 4:03 PM K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email> wrote: >> >>> What would be handy is to have a VM of Ubuntu with the old Chirp already >>> installed, so that can be implemented. >>> I am sure I have an old Ubuntu Live on a thumb drive with Chirp on it, >>> but I don't know if that can be made into a VM. >>> Glenn >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> chirp_users mailing list >> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com >> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users >> This message was sent to K0LNY at glenn@ervin.email >> To unsubscribe, send an email to >> chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com >> To report this email as off-topic, please email >> chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com >> Searchable archive: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> chirp_users mailing list >> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com >> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users >> This message was sent to K0LNY at glenn@ervin.email >> To unsubscribe, send an email to >> chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com >> To report this email as off-topic, please email >> chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com >> Searchable archive: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> chirp_users mailing list >> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com >> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users >> This message was sent to UtahDave at bou...@gmail.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email to >> chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com >> To report this email as off-topic, please email >> chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com >> Searchable archive: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to K0LNY at glenn@ervin.email > To unsubscribe, send an email to > chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com > To report this email as off-topic, please email > chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com > Searchable archive: > https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to D.J.J. 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