Hi Glenn, Have you tried running chirp-next on Ubuntu? Or tried running it straight from the git repo? I don't use a screen reader, but I was able to run chirp directly from the latest branch in the git repo just fine, and without flatpack .
Which screen reader do you use on TV Ubuntu? I could try testing it On Mon, Jan 2, 2023, 8:50 PM K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email> wrote: > Hi, > Excuse me, but I prefer windows 7, although I got a new computer, and > bought a key for 7, installed 10, and then put 7 in a VM, because I like it > better, and if it gets infected, I have backups of the VM. > Now, on Chirp, since it went to having to use flatpak, Blind folks haven't > been able to use it. > So if I want to use Chirp in Ubuntu, it's got to be Ubuntu using an old > Python, and Chirp already installed. > And Chirp is so difficult in windows for people using a screenreader, I > would guess that less than 5% of screenreader users have the screenreader > skills to get around the lack of access to Chirp in windows. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Matt Novak-Zarate <m...@novakzarate.com> > *To:* chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > *Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2023 9:01 PM > *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build > > Apologies ahead of time for the novel I've written below, but I have > thoughts on all this, coming from a background working in fields that > pertain to this whole Win 7/Win 10, old Chirp/new Chirp dilemma. Feel free > to skip if you don't care! > > If someone has, for whatever reason, stuck with Windows 7 up until this > point, what makes us think they're going to be able to run a virtual > machine, much less one with a Linux install on it, even if it is Ubuntu? > Not just from a technical ability standpoint, what makes us think their > hardware can support running multiple OSes, especially when one of them is > Windows? That's not a lightweight ask, especially on DDR3 RAM and > spinning-platter HDDs. > > Also, if they're going to go through all the rigamarole of setting up a > VM, why are we bothering with the old version of Ubuntu and Chirp? Use the > latest Ubuntu and get new or old Chirp on there! > > Here's an alternative: if someone is interested in using their old > hardware and the newer version of Chirp, and they're limited from upgrading > either their hardware or their OS, it could be a good idea to just install > Linux. Mint XFCE would be a solid distro for stability and compatibility on > older, outdated hardware, it's free, and let's be real, if they're into > HAM, they're down with learning and tinkering, which is a perfect mentality > to have going into learning Linux, even Mint/Ubuntu. > > This is, of course, a good amount of work. Downloading and making > installer media may be a challenge. Backing up data for use in the new OS. > Installing Linux, even Mint, poses challenges to neophytes. But it is a lot > more viable, and long-lasting, a solution than ad hoc-ing some bodge job of > VMs and outdated OSes. And secure, too. Windows 7 machines should not be > connected to anything that can reach the public Internet. Period. They're a > massive security risk. This would resolve that, albeit with a goodly amount > of work. > > Just my... three cents on it. Too long an email for it to be just two lol. > > Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED Talk. > > Matt > > Sent from Proton Mail mobile > -------- Original Message -------- > On Jan 2, 2023, 21:08, K0LNY_Glenn < glenn@ervin.email> wrote: > > > > Well if it is the only someone can use Chirp, either for accessibility, or > because of operating system, I see nothing wrong with it. > I may DD my thumb drive with Ubuntu and Chirp on it, if I can find a drive > with just that on it, and give a link to anyone who wants it. > Some of my thumb drives are multiboot, with several operating systems on > it, so I'll need to go through a bunch of them to find one that has Ubuntu > 18 and Chirp. > > Glenn > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Scott Lopez <scot...@gmail.com> > *To:* Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> > *Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2023 7:22 PM > *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build > > I can't imagine anyone here wants to be responsible for setting up, > distributing, and supporting a VM image of what is now outdated and no > longer supported software. I know I wouldn't want to be. There's a reason > the software is outdated, the best solution is to keep up. > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 4:03 PM K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email> wrote: > >> What would be handy is to have a VM of Ubuntu with the old Chirp already >> installed, so that can be implemented. >> I am sure I have an old Ubuntu Live on a thumb drive with Chirp on it, >> but I don't know if that can be made into a VM. >> Glenn >> > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to K0LNY at glenn@ervin.email > To unsubscribe, send an email to > chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com > To report this email as off-topic, please email > chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com > Searchable archive: > https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to K0LNY at glenn@ervin.email > To unsubscribe, send an email to > chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com > To report this email as off-topic, please email > chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com > Searchable archive: > https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to UtahDave at bou...@gmail.com > To unsubscribe, send an email to > chirp_users-unsubscr...@intrepid.danplanet.com > To report this email as off-topic, please email > chirp_users-ow...@intrepid.danplanet.com > Searchable archive: > https://www.mail-archive.com/chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
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