On 4/27/25 02:54, Jing Luo wrote:
On 2025-04-24 11:07, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote:
On 4/23/25 01:17, Jing Luo wrote:
[...]

(a rough translation from Chinese)
[Q3] Is the source code of Spacemit's gcc available
[A3] No. But [we] didn't make a lot of changes on gcc, basically it's [the same as] the open source (sic.) version. After all, the only thing added was assembler support, i.e. changing binutils. The patches supporting the instruction will be ready to be released, so that everyone who build their own toolchain can also patch [it] themselves.

Oh well.

[7] https://forum.spacemit.com/t/topic/387

That "No." is a GPL violation right there, as I understand it. Can the Chinese original be read as "GCC is unmodified from the GNU version" or are they attempting to minimize the fact that they distribute a modified *compiler*?

The latter one I think. "didn't make a lot of changes" = "made some changes".

Right...

GNU binutils is another package, but could be conflated as part of GCC because GCC uses binutils to generate binary output, and binary distributions of GCC therefore normally include binutils.

This leads to a possible scenario:  they are distributing a build of unmodified GCC with their patched binutils bundled.  Is the promised binutils patch available?

No, there is simply no source tarballs or patches for the binaries (gcc+binutils) they distribute.

So then we run down the details according to <URL:https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html>:

 * the precise name of the product
 * the name of the person or organization distributing it
 * email addresses, postal addresses and phone numbers for how to
   contact the distributor(s)
 * the exact name of the package whose license is violated
 * how the license was violated

You have the first two of those; I believe Martin Guy found at least some email addresses; our discussion seems to indicate that we are looking at GPL violations on both GCC and GNU binutils; and of course, the sources are completely missing.

The FSF collects reports at: license-violat...@gnu.org


-- Jacob
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