On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 3:02 AM Janne Johansson <icepic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Den ons 7 nov. 2018 kl 18:43 skrev David Turner <drakonst...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > My big question is that we've had a few of these releases this year that 
> > are bugged and shouldn't be upgraded to... They don't have any release 
> > notes or announcement and the only time this comes out is when users 
> > finally ask about it weeks later.  Why is this not proactively announced to 
> > avoid a problematic release and hopefully prevent people from installing 
> > it?  It would be great if there was an actual release notes saying not to 
> > upgrade to this version or something.
>
> I think the big question is why do these packages end up publicly so
> that scripts, updates and anyone not actively trying to hold back get
> exposed to them, then we are somehow supposed to notice that the
> accompanying release notes are lacking and then from that divinate
> that we shouldn't have upgraded into this release at all. This seems
> all backwards in most possible ways.
>
> I'm not even upset about releases having bugs, stuff happens, but the
> way people are forced into it, then it's somehow your fault for
> running ceph-deploy or yum/apt upgrade against official release-repos.

It isn't your fault (or anyone in the community), we don't have a good
system in place for community repos to manage it in a way that would
help when problems like this come up.

We are in a much better place than a few years ago though, when
packages had to be placed manually when creating repos, but more work
is needed to address multi-version support in deb repos
and yanking known bad versions out of the official/latest release location.

> It's almost as if it was meant to push people into slow-moving dists
> like Blue^H^H^H^HRedhat with ceph on top.
>
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