I say that if we are going to push out one last release before the transition, 
make it 2.2.5, and then the autotools release can be 2.3. Can we also reenable 
the font editor and try to debug it after 2.2.5? If it's only problem is 
renamed x11 headers and compiler warnings, that is a relatively easy fix.

Would switching to autotools also solve the rpath problem?


​Thank you for your time,

-Chase​

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐

On June 20, 2018 12:04 PM, Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> wrote:

> ​​
> 
> On 06/19/2018 09:33 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Matthew T. and I have had a conversation about imake and whether or not
> > 
> > it would be a good idea to merge with master or not. After doing a bit
> > 
> > of discussion, I sent a message to alan coopersmith to see if anyone at
> > 
> > the imake team would be willing to look at our code and help us merge,
> > 
> > to which he revealed to me that there is no imake team, and there hasn't
> > 
> > been one since 2014, and it is very unlikely that anyone else will pick
> > 
> > up the project (he even went as far as to consider appointing me as the
> > 
> > maintainer of imake). So if it wasn't official already, it is now, we
> > 
> > are maintaining both imake and CDE.
> 
> Congratulations! :)
> 
> > I briefly considered moving to
> > 
> > meson, however Matthew informed me that this would severely limit
> > 
> > compatibility with legacy operating systems, and it looks like Cmake has
> > 
> > that same problem. So the way I see it, we have two options going
> > 
> > forward, we either move towards the gnu autotools, or we merge with
> > 
> > master and continue from where they left off on our own. I was
> > 
> > considering posting some patches that would sync us with upstream a bit,
> > 
> > but I don't know how much they would be worth with this news (one of
> > 
> > them enabling cross compiling).
> > 
> > How should we continue from here? Thoughts?
> 
> Imake is dead, and I see no point in trying to "take over" and improve
> 
> it. Autotools (as others have also mentioned in this thread) is the way
> 
> to go moving forward. We might be able to leverage some of the work X11
> 
> did there as well.
> 
> With autotools, we could get multi-core builds, cross compiler support,
> 
> build-time detection of system features, languages, and capabilities,
> 
> and much more. We could take advantage of their finer grained
> 
> installation support (--bindir=DIR, --libexecdir=DIR, --runstatedir=DIR,
> 
> and a dozen others to also resolve the whole "stuff everything into
> 
> /usr/dt" issue as well.
> 
> We should (as X11 and Motif did) develop it along side Imake until it is
> 
> working well enough to just toss out Imake. We would also get "make
> 
> install" working (though this does not have to wait for autotools
> 
> integration), and we could eventually get rid of the UDB databases and
> 
> their dependencies too.
> 
> So, I am all for it. A question though, is timing. Should we get a
> 
> stable release out first, and then start working on something like this?
> 
> Alternatively, we could just keep releasing occasional development
> 
> releases until we are ready, but that would mean a stable release might
> 
> still be a long way off.
> 
> [...]
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Jon Trulson
> 
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> 
> - Zapp Brannigan
> 
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