I think IBM always called their service techs CEs, didn't they?  Honeywell and 
at least one small company (Atex) which serviced DEC PDP-11 machines called the 
same position a Field Engineer.

One site I used to service (USGS in Reston, VA) had a split computer room.  The 
left side was for IBM gear while the right side held a Honeywell Multics 
machine which allowed me to see how my counterparts at IBM worked.  When the 
IBM machine was down, there were a group of conservatively dressed CEs 
investigating the problem.  When the Multics system had hardware problems, it 
was just me working on it and I never wore a suit.

 - Rod

> On Dec 23, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Wayne S via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> 
> For the people who worked at IBM, what was the difference between an “FE” and 
> “CE” ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2024, at 07:47, Paul Berger via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 2024-12-23 05:11, Nico de Jong via cctalk wrote:
>>>> 
>>> When I was an operator, we once had a visit from a CE who had to repair the 
>>> carriage control mechanism. In order to do that, he had to use a big 
>>> screwdriver, and of course he lost it. It hit the 1403 N1's power supply, 
>>> blew all fuses. This was not enough; the screwdrive hit obviously the plus 
>>> and minus pole of the main capacitor (it's about 55 years ago), so the 
>>> current was so large that, after the things had cooled down, he could lift 
>>> the capactor out of the printer just by lifting the screwdriver
>>> 
>>> It was by the way the same CE that got his tie wrapped up in the print 
>>> chain....
>>> 
>>> The same company once had a bunch of visitors who were allowed to visit the 
>>> machine room, which normally was a bit nono. One of the guests took his 
>>> coffeecup with him, put it on top of the 1403, and while things were 
>>> explained to the crowd, the cover lifted and .... well you can guess the 
>>> rest. He was quite pisssed off, but it was his own fault
>>> 
>>> Another thing I'll never forget, was the 2540. It had 5 bins, and the 
>>> middle one could be used for accepting read cards and punched cards. Once 
>>> an operated started to read cards while cards were being punched, and both 
>>> routines used the middle bin. That is not to be recommended !
>>> 
>>> /Nico
>>> 
>> My experience with a capacitor occurred early in my time as a CE.  Before 
>> the days of switching regulators IBM used a lot of power supplied that where 
>> regulated by a resonant winding on the input transformer.  If the capacitor 
>> on that winding goes short you get no output from the transformer.  I was 
>> working on a banking terminal that had no power.  Where I was working I was 
>> behind a row of machines and cabinets for things like signature cards, in a 
>> narrow isle against the windows, so no one in the branch could see me.  I 
>> had already been caught once by a shorted resonant capacitor so first thing 
>> I did pop off one of the leads to the capacitor and sure enough it powered 
>> up, but I didn't leave it at that I started to second guess it so I turned 
>> off the machine and reattached the wire to the capacitor, and it powered up 
>> again.  Then I started thinking that it probably went short due to heating 
>> up, so I thought it best to leave it disconnected until I could get a 
>> replacement, the machine would work fine without it for a day or two.  It 
>> was then that I made the mistake, I thought I should discharge the 
>> capacitor, so I shorted the leads with the shank of a screwdriver and there 
>> was a load crack and a bright flash and next thing some of the banks staff 
>> where looking over the machine and asking if I was OK.  I still have that 
>> screwdriver some 45 years later.
>> 
>> You quickly learned to tuck in you tie and roll up your sleeves not just to 
>> keep them out of the mechanisms, but also to keep them out of the oil and 
>> grease.  The worst things I worked on for getting dirty was proof machines.  
>> The endorsers used a purple indelible ink and they would get gummed up with 
>> a mixture of ink and paper dust and working with gloves was impossible so 
>> you would end up with your hands stained purple.  Later someone stumbled on 
>> the idea of using a ultrasonic cleaner which we could use to clean 
>> everything except the endorsement plate, the ultrasonic cleaner would cause 
>> the endorsement plate to delaminate, but it was easy to clean by hand.
>> 
>> Paul.
>> 

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